Talk:Pennsylvania Route 823/GA1
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It may take until Monday before the review is completed. Please be patient. Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 23:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comments -- Overall prose could be further improved. Because the article is short, I went ahead and corrected some phrasing and grammar errors but this could use a rewrite from another editor. Check the spelling of "Laffayette" because it may have only one "f". There is also an issue with referring to Big Shanty as a borough. As far as I know, there has never been a borough by that name in Pennsylvania and is not listed in Category:Boroughs in Pennsylvania. Please verify and cite if it is indeed a borough. On the other hand, Lewis Run is a borough and should be indicated as such. Now, if it turns out that Big Shanty is not a borough, what is meant by "borough line"? Where exactly did the designation end? How is this point determined? This is important as the route length is cited based on a Yahoo driving directions The route description should also be expanded by adding terrain information as it appears one part is in a valley another climbs a very steep hill. Can we add the owner of the railroad line the route partially follows? There are also some unsourced statements that need citations or wikilinks: (1) "mass commissioning of state routes" the year before; (2) route numbers in the 800s and 900s generally have parent routes. These statements are not fully supported by Refs. 2 and 3. Clarification about the current designation should also be provided, e.g. is the designation signed?, is PennDOT still responsible for maintenance? Also, why is PA 646 listed in the See also section? A comment beside the entry might be useful. Finally, it might be useful to indicate, if possible, why this route is a state road? 19th century maps seem to indicate that a possible reason is that US 219 has not yet been laid out as a highway and the main north-south road in the area was PA 823. This needs further research, however. Article needs major fixes in my opinion but I'm putting it on hold for now to allow for fixes. --Polaron | Talk 16:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Comments on recent fixes per this diff [1] -- The changes address only the issue of the municipal status of Big Shanty and Lewis Run. Are the quadrant routes really signed for the purpose of being able to follow the route? Or are they more similar to New York's reference markers? If the latter, I would not consider that as a signed route. It is still unclear how the exact southern terminus was determined to claculate length. If it is an approximation based on a non-detailed map, it should be mentioned which point was actually used for the southern end and the length figure be made less precise. There are still outstanding issues on sourcing and some additional information in the route description as described above. --Polaron | Talk 15:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
There has been no activity for a week. There are still several outstanding issues that have not been addressed. The article is almost there but just needs a bit of work. In the meantime, I am closing out this nomination. --Polaron | Talk 16:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)