Talk:Penn State Nittany Lions men's ice hockey

Not the same teams

No reason to believe that Penn State will drop ACHA hockey for NCAA. Many schools have both, and at Penn State's size, probably will as well. None of these players could compete at the NCAA level. Unless there is an announcement that they will drop their club team, both shouldn't be in the same article, and it shouldn't be described as a "move". Grsz¹¹ 04:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

That is actually incorrect, The university is moving up the men's and women's ACHA DI programs, the university used the term "elevating." It's all sourced, and is in the refs. A lot of people get confused "team" vs. "program". The programs will be moved from ACHA DI/varsity club status to NCAA/varsity status and their ACHA kept just like some of the other current DI schools that moved from DII and DIII to DI and programs like Bemidji that moved from the NAIA way back. As far a team- most of the current team (coaches and players) will not make the NCAA roster. At the press conference and I believe it's in some of the articles, the university will continue the separate ACHA DII team "if interests continues." Bhockey10 (talk) 04:50, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Here it is from the press conf. (one of many sources) [1]

It is our intention to elevate our club men's and women's hockey programs to Varsity status, beginning NCAA Division I competition for the 2012-13 hockey seasons.

2003-04 and 2004-05 season records

For the 2003-04 and 2004-05 seasons, here are the game results as shown at http://thankyouterry.blogspot.com/p/m-resultsseason-1909.html, http://php.scripts.psu.edu/clubs/up/psuicers/schedule.php?season=200304 and http://php.scripts.psu.edu/clubs/up/psuicers/schedule.php?season=200405

Note the season records and compare them to the coaching records stated for those years in the article.

The 2003-04 coaching record is listed as 24-8-1, compared to the reported results shown below (35-3-0).

The 2004-05 coaching record is listed as 27-6-1, compared to the reported results shown below (26-7-3).

Why are there these big discrepancies? Were there some games later forfeited by Penn State that aren't shown that way below?

2003-2004 (35-3-0)

Coach: Joe Battista

Captains: Bill Downey, Curtiss Patrick

ACHA Showcase (10/10-12/2003, West Chester, PA)

10/10/2003 vs. Iowa State, W 8-5

10/11/2003 vs. Arizona State, W 6-1

10/12/2003 vs. Mercyhurst, W 17-3

10/17/2003 vs. Ohio, W 7-3

10/18/2003 vs. Ohio, W 5-3

10/24/2003 vs. Buffalo, W 10-1

10/25/2003 @ Drexel, W 3-1

10/31/2003 vs. Towson, W 14-1

11/1/2003 @ Towson, W 8-3

11/2/2003 @ West Chester, W 8-0

11/7/2003 vs. Drexel, W 7-2

11/8/2003 vs. Drexel, W 8-1

11/14/2003 @ Delaware, W 1-0 (forfeit)

11/15/2003 @ Delaware, W 2-0

11/21/2003 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, W 4-3

11/22/2003 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, W 5-2

Big Ten Tournament (11/28-29/2003, Bloomington, IN)

11/28/2003 vs. Indiana, W 13-3

11/29/2003 vs. Illinois, W 3-2

12/5/2003 vs. Niagara, W 5-1

12/6/2003 vs. Niagara, W 9-1

1/9/2004 @ Ohio, L 2-4

1/10/2004 @ Ohio, L 2-4

1/16/2004 vs. Rhode Island, W 7-2

1/17/2004 vs. West Virginia, W 5-1

Nittany Lion Invitational Tournament (1/23-24/2004, State College, PA)

1/23/2004 vs. Western Michigan, W 9-1

1/24/2004 vs. Washington & Jefferson, W 11-1

1/30/2004 @ Michigan-Dearborn, W 6-0

1/31/2004 @ Michigan-Dearborn, W 8-1

2/6/2004 vs. Delaware, W 11-0

2/7/2004 vs. Delaware, W 12-1

2/13/2004 vs. Robert Morris (IL), W 5-0

2/14/2004 vs. Robert Morris (IL), W 7-1

2/20/2004 @ Washington & Jefferson, W 5-2

2/21/2004 @ Washington & Jefferson, W 7-2

ACHA National Tournament (3/3-7/2004, Ames, IA)

3/3/2004 vs. Towson, W 10-1

3/5/2004 vs. Iowa State, W 10-1

3/6/2004 vs. Minot State, W 9-1

3/7/2004 vs. Ohio, L 4-5

2004-2005 (26-7-3)

Coach: Joe Battista

Captains: Eric Harbaugh, Kevin Jaeger

10/8/2004 vs. West Chester, W 7-3

10/9/2004 @ Towson, W 6-2

10/10/2004 @ West Chester, W 8-2

10/15/2004 @ St. Clair College, W 8-2

10/16/2004 @ St. Clair College, W 7-2

10/22/2004 vs. Drexel, W 13-1

10/23/2004 @ Washington & Jefferson, W 7-1

10/29/2004 vs. Ohio, W 4-3 (OT)

10/30/2004 vs. Ohio, W 4-3 (OT)

11/5/2004 @ Rhode Island, L 2-4

11/6/2004 @ Rhode Island, T 0-0

11/12/2004 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, W 9-2

11/13/2004 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, L 2-4

11/19/2004 @ Delaware, W 3-0

11/20/2004 @ Delaware, W 5-4

12/3/2004 vs. St. Clair College, L 3-6

12/4/2004 vs. St. Clair College, T 1-1

12/10/2004 vs. West Virginia, W 9-2

1/7/2005 @ Ohio, L 1-3

1/8/2005 @ Ohio, W 2-1

1/14/2005 vs. Rhode Island, L 1-7

1/15/2005 vs. Rhode Island, W 4-2

Nittany Lion Invitational Tournament (1/21-22/2005, State College, PA)

1/21/2005 vs. Mercyhurst, W 6-2

1/22/2005 vs. Towson, W 5-4

1/28/2005 @ Michigan-Dearborn, L 2-3

1/29/2005 @ Michigan-Dearborn, W 4-1

2/4/2005 vs. Delaware, W 6-0

2/5/2005 vs. Delaware, W 6-2

2/11/2005 @ Illinois, W 2-1

2/12/2005 @ Illinois, T 3-3

2/18/2005 vs. Washington & Jefferson, W 11-0

2/19/2005 vs. Washington & Jefferson, W 4-2

ACHA National Tournament (3/2-6/2005, Bensenville, IL)

3/2/2005 vs. West Chester, W 4-0

3/3/2005 vs. Robert Morris (IL), W 6-2

3/5/2005 vs. Ohio, W 3-1

3/6/2005 vs. Illinois, L 3-4

Jeff in CA 18:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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1995-96 season record

For the 1995-96 season, here are the game results as shown at http://thankyouterry.blogspot.com/p/m-resultsseason-1909.html

Note the season record and compare it to the coaching record stated for that year in the article.

The 1995-96 coaching record is listed as 26-4-1, compared to the reported results shown below (29-4-1).

Why is there a discrepancy? What happened to the 3 wins that are not shown on the official season record?

1995-1996 (29-4-1)

Coach: Joe Battista

Captain: P.J. Amodeo

10/20/1995 vs. Duquesne, W 17-0

10/27/1995 @ West Virginia, W 15-1

10/28/1995 @ Kent State, W 8-2

11/3/1995 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, W 6-2

11/4/1995 vs. Michigan-Dearborn, W 9-3

11/10/1995 vs. Illinois, W 6-2

11/11/1995 vs. Illinois, W 9-2

11/19/1995 @ Delaware, W 9-1

Chicago Classic (11/25-26/1995, Chicago, IL)

11/24/1995 vs. Iowa State, W 6-5

11/25/1995 vs. West Virginia, W 6-2

11/29/1995 vs. Hobart (NCAA DIII), W 4-3

12/1/1995 vs. Eastern Michigan, W 15-1

12/2/1995 vs. Eastern Michigan, L 2-3

12/8/1995 vs. Buffalo, W 16-2

1/6/1996 @ Towson State, W 8-3

1/7/1996 @ Mercyhurst (NCAA DII), L 4-13

1/13/1996 vs. Delaware, W 10-2

Nittany Lion Invitational Tournament (1/19-20/1996, State College, PA)

1/19/1996 vs. Colorado State, W 11-3

1/20/1996 vs. Towson State, W 8-4

1/26/1996 @ Michigan-Dearborn, W 6-3

1/27/1996 @ Eastern Michigan, W 6-4

2/2/1996 vs. West Virginia, T 5-5

2/3/1996 vs. West Virginia, W 4-1

2/7/1996 @ Villanova (NCAA DI), W 7-1

2/9/1996 vs. Arizona State, W 7-0

2/10/1996 vs. Arizona State, W 5-4

2/16/1996 @ Illinois, W 5-3

2/17/1996 @ Illinois, L 2-3

2/23/1996 vs. Michigan State, W 11-2

2/24/1996 vs. Michigan State, W 7-3

ACHA National Tournament (2/28-3/2/1996, Athens, OH)

2/28/1996 vs. Arizona State, W 4-0

2/29/1996 vs. Iowa State, L 3-6

3/1/1996 vs. Arizona, W 4-2

3/2/1996 vs. Eastern Michigan, W 7-2

Jeff in CA 19:55, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Other discrepancies among the official season W-L-T records

Does anyone have information that could help to resolve the following?

1971-72: official record (13-6-0) includes 2 wins for which none of the game information is known

1976-77: official record (14-6-1) fails to include 1 of the 2 tie games (both ties have verifiable sources, including the Daily Collegian)

1977-78: one source lists an away win over Pitt on 12/5/1977 with a score of 10-1. This is not included or reflected anywhere in this article.

1979-80: official record (18-5-0) includes 1 loss for which none of the game information is known

1980-81: official record (24-6-0) includes an early-season exhibition win over NCAA DIII Cortland State. Is this consistent with how exhibition games are being counted in more recent seasons?

1983-84: official record (24-15-1) does not agree with the Daily Collegian reported final record of 23-15-1. Only 22 wins can be identified among source materials (e.g., see http://thankyouterry.blogspot.com/p/m-resultsseason-1909.html). There could have been an unreported win over winter break. Therefore, there are either 1 or 2 wins for which none of the game information is known.

1984-85: official record (20-11-2) includes 1 win for which none of the game information is known

1985-86: official record (17-16-3) seems to have miscounted one win as a loss and missed the 7-2 season-opening win over Niagara on 10/18/1985 (which was followed by an 8-6 win over Niagara the next day). One source (http://thankyouterry.blogspot.com/p/m-resultsseason-1909.html) shows all 37 game results with an overall record of 19-15-3.

1986-87: official record (24-9-1) is missing a 10th loss, as the archives of the Daily Collegian verify and confirm there were 10 losses

1990-91: one source lists an away win over Erie CC on 12/20/1990 with a score of 7-4. This is not included or reflected anywhere in this article.

1993-94: official record (24-8-1) does not include an early-season away exhibition loss (2-7) on 10/17/1993 to University of Massachusetts. Is this consistent with how exhibition games are being counted in more recent seasons?

1995-96: see above

2003-04: see above

2004-05: see above

2012-13: Penn State's W-L record of 6-2 in exhibition games that occurred throughout the season is not included among the 13-14 regular season W-L record. Is this consistent with how exhibition games are being counted? Is there a way to acknowledge these results in the coaching and season records? .

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Jeff in CA 20:29, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

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Protection request

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Proposed merge with The Roar Zone

Notability. Adam9007 (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 19:20, 8 October 2018 (UTC)