Talk:Pelham Park and City Island Railway

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Derailment

I am surprised to find little information about the derailmetn in the article, although this is available in the following sources:

Monorail Car Fails on its First Trip - Flimsy Structure Supporting It Gives Way and Many Are Badly Hurt. - Fall to the Floor in Layers. The New York Times, 17. Juli 1910.
John Metcalfe: On This Day in 1910, New York's Monorail Suffered a Grievous Wreck. A sad tale of extremely poor transportation planning. Version of 16 July 2014. Downloaded on 17 September 2015. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 05:35, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Assorted sources

"TRAFFIC TIED UP BY A HEAVY FOG; Rear-End Crash on Brooklyn Elevated Injures 11 -- River Collisions Numerous". nytimes.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"Historian Blake Bell's Blog: History of the Pelham Park and City Island Railway". The Pelhams-PLUS. 23 February 2017. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"NEWS OF THE RAILROADS; The Question of Consolidated Companies Charging Two Fares. A CASE BEFORE THE STATE BOARD The Pelham Park and City Island Railway Companies Accused of Illegal Acts -- The Board Sends the Matter to the Courts". timesmachine.nytimes.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"Historic Pelham: Efforts to Reorganize the Operators of the City Island Horse Railroad and Monorail in 1914". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"Historic Pelham: Lawsuit in 1884 Cleared the Way for Construction of Horse Railroad from Bartow Station to Lower Part of City Island in Pelham". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"Historic Pelham: Brief History of the Pelham Park and City Island Railway". historicpelham.blogspot.com. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"The Pelham Park and City Island Railway, part 2". Forsyth's Compendium of Curious Contraptions. Retrieved 31 March 2020.
"More unusual railways : Day, John Robert : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive". Internet Archive. Retrieved 16 June 2023.

Additional map depicting geography of the time period (1884-1914)?

I feel the article could use another map depicting geography of the time period if such a map exists. Something to give the viewer a sense of the functioning of the monorail. Does the Monorail Route exist on any maps between 1884 and 1914? I'm not seeing anything in commons:Category:Maps of City Island, Bronx. Just a thought. --Wil540 art (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wil540 art and RoySmith: Created a map for these two railroads using Julius Bien's Pelham map (1893) as a basemap.

Made a few assumptions: (a) what the exact location of the line either on the roadf or near by?; and (b) found a hotel in the middle of City Island, not sure this was the stop. Your comments and feedback welcome! - DutchTreat (talk) 14:14, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! I had done some searching for a WP:RS for Brown's Hotel, and didn't find anything; I'm hesitant to put anything on the map that can't be reliably sourced. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: Uploaded version 2 which removes the stop labelled "Hotel" on City Island. I agree that this map should not introduce unsourced information. Thank you for the quick response. - DutchTreat (talk) 11:02, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Added that to the article. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Very nicely done @DutchTreat:! --Wil540 art (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]