Talk:Peggy Gordon

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Origins of song.

I would dispute that this song is of purely Canadian origin. Folksongs & Ballads Popular In Ireland, Volume 2 (ISBN 0 946005 01 x Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: invalid character) states on page 64, "This is one of a complete body of Scottish songs that found its way into Ireland and took root so firmly that one might forget where it came from." In the recording of The Dubliners Live at the Albert Hall (1969) Luke Kelly group introduced Peggy Gordon as "a Scottish song which went to America." The name Peggy Gordon itself is a strong clue that the lyric comes from Scotland, most probably from Aberdeenshire. There is an old English air from Gloucestershire called The Banks Of The Sweet Primroses which seems to be likely the basis for the Peggy Gordon tune. The claim that this song is of uniquely Canadian origin seems to me to be absurd. The fact that it was published in 1950 amongst a set of songs which were collected in Nova Scotia in no way precludes the likelihood that the elements of the song had been imported from various parts of Britain and perhaps Ireland. Should the article not reflect these disparate inputs? Henry Clarson (talk) 02:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article states that the roots of the song go back to New York in the 1880s. The above claims do not cite any sources, and are mere guesswork. There are floating verses in the song that could come from anywhere. The name Peggy Gordon could be found anywhere in the UK, Ireland or in the English-speaking world. The fact remains that it was collected in Canada. Hohenloh⁺ 23:59, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seems strange (idiotic even)to claim this song of Canadian origin on the basis of a performance in Canada in the 1950s when it had had actually been published in the USA a full seventy years previously in essentially the same form. Just how can this possibly make it Canadian? There is no possible logic to the Canadian claim, apart from edits by a blinkered poster with an excess of misplaced patriotism unable to accept hard evidence that he is totally and absolutely wrong. This song is commonly regarded as Scottish and claiming it is Canadian doesn't only seem absurd, it IS absurd - can the Canadian reference be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jambag (talk • contribs) 22:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC) Because someone once heard a song being performed in a part of Canada (long after it was known elsewhere) populated by Scottish emigrants does not mean it originated in Canada. That is as absurd as saying that if you first heard the Beatles' "Hard Days Night" being performed in Canada, it must be a a Canadian song, irrespective of who wrote it and where. Whoever keeps editing Wikipedia to say the song is Canadian should stop, especially since there is evidence that it existed at least 130 years before someone heard it in Canada and "collected" it, whatever that means. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.41.30.221 (talk) 07:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am reminded a bit of a gag by Billy Connolly: "And I collected this one from a 90-year-old woman in Lewis. Discovered she'd learned it off a Hamish Imlach LP." PatGallacher (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: moved. No objection in over two weeks. Jenks24 (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peggy Gordon (song) → Peggy Gordon – The song is fairly well known, as can be seen from the number of well-known singers who have recorded it, it is the primary meaning. The singer seems like a fairly minor figure who only just passes notability. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 01:24, 30 May 2012 (UTC) PatGallacher (talk) 11:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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