Talk:Peggy Flanagan

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Is she Irish-American as well as Ojibwa? What is her mother's name?

I'm assuming that Peggy Flanagan she was given her mother's surname due to the fact that her father was not involved in raising her. Her mother (as far as I can tell from photos) is unambiguously white. Flanagan also named her daughter Siobhan, a well-known Irish girl's name. This would all seem to suggest that she is an Irish-American both by definition and through her own cultural affiliations. (Flanagan is an Irish surname, for those who aren't aware.) If this is indeed the case, the article should state as much. The list of categories should also be expanded to include the relevant Irish-American related lists.

Still, I'd like to rule out the possibility, however unlikely, that the Flanagan surname came into her family as the result of adoption or remarriage to an Irish-American stepfather somewhere along the line. Or (also unlikely but still possible), that Marvin Manypenny was born Marvin Flanagan. Which could reflect distant Irish ancestry on his part, but as I mentioned, stepfathers and adoptions make surefire assumptions about surnames an impossible task.

This line isn’t necessary and doesn’t sound neutral

“If Walz is elected vice president of the United States in the 2024 presidential election, Flanagan will become Minnesota's first woman governor, the first Native American woman to serve as governor in the country and the third Native American to serve as a state governor after Johnston Murray and Kevin Stitt, both from Oklahoma” Bjoh249 (talk) 22:55, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brother

On her August 19, 2024 speech at the 2024 Democratic National Convention, Flanagan stated that her brother was the second person in the state of Tennessee to die of COVID-19. Should we add this information to this article? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 23:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the fact to the personal life section. Di (they-them) (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ojibwe name

I think that it would be useful to include her Ojibwe name, but I've only heard it spoken and I don't know of any source that spells it. Does anyone know of any sources that write her native name? Di (they-them) (talk) 23:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the cited video she translates the name as "speaks-with-a-clear-and-loud-voice woman".

Having some experience with looking up Ojibwe terms, I'm pretty sure the adjectival part of that is gizhiiwewidam.

I'd expect the full term to be gizhiiwewidamikwe (-ikwe being a suffix for "woman"), though for some reason she says a [u] as if it were ukwe rather than ikwe, despite there being no short /u/ sound in Ojibwe and no variation of the -ikwe suffix sounding like this (the others being -wikwe and -kwe which don't seem to occur after consonants.) (Actually, the closest word that can be pronounced close to this is ookwe but which means "maggot".)

As such I'd prioritize any official written form if one does come out, but Gizhiiwewidamikwe seems like a good way to write the name for now. Noglnogl (talk) 07:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: PBS spelled the name a Geji Waudamukwe in the transcript of her 2024 DNC speech. I'm not really sure if it's accurate, but it's the most reliable source that we currently have. Di (they-them) (talk) 22:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the PBS News clip to be auto-captioning, and definitely didn't correctly transcribe the Ojibwe/Anishinaabemowin. The correct spelling can be found in a variety of places originated by Flanagan herself, including her Instagram bio (https://www.instagram.com/peggyflanagan). Clund07 (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, just realized I neglected to add what the correct spelling was! It is "Gizhiiwewidamookwe"; I've edited the article to reflect this. Clund07 (talk) 00:16, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Di (they-them) (talk) 22:05, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]