Talk:PechaKucha

This article was nominated for deletion on 5 June 2017. The result of the discussion was keep.

Links

I don't think this article needs links to the architecture firm, that the nightclub owners who founded this also run. Doesn't add anything to the article, I'm not even sure mentioning it is important? - SimonLyall 01:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's the other way round, the architecture firm was first, then they opened the club. The combination of the two led to the events. That they are architects should be mentioned because it reflects the background in which Pechakucha was created (as an antidote to boring architecture presentations). If you like I can cite it in the article, although it seems reasonable to allow it as a "related link" Sparkzilla 02:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Super Deluxe

It was 2003, and Mark Dytham and Astrid Klein of Klein Dytham Architecture (KDa) were looking for an event that would draw people to SuperDeluxe, the bar and event space they and a few like-minded individuals had set up in Roppongi.

Sparkzilla 02:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pronounciation

Hmm, I listened to http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/magazine/15-09/st_pechakucha to find out how to pronounce Pecha Kucha. It sounds more like "petsjaskah" to my ears. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.29.89.34 (talk) 08:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well somebody changed it from "peh-chak-cha" a couple of weeks ago. Anyone got a ref to the "offical" way to say it? - SimonLyall (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Japanese, the U character is often mute, so slowly pronounced it would be "Pe Cha K' Cha", resulting in the fast "Pe-chak-cha"Lord Yo (talk) 09:53, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, from a person who speaks Japanese, this is one word that pains me to hear butchered. Japanese pronunciation is as literal as Spanish, everything is pronounced the same. There are no mute vowels. I even included a link to a Japanese person pronouncing it correctly. The Japanese characters shown at the beginning are pronounced peh-chi-(ya) koo-chi-(ya), where the 'ya' characters are smaller because it means they're to be blended in with the character before it, thus 'chya', which sounds close enough to 'cha'. I almost fell out of my chair when I heard an organizer pronounce it with three syllables and they told me they had to spend an inordinate time to get their audience to pronounce it that way, since they said that's what Wikipedia said. The reason they spent that much time is because it's simply not pronounced with three syllables. Here in Washington DC, whose chapter has a strong relationship with the Pecha Kucha founders, and very international with a strong emphasis on pronouncing things correctly as a result, people have always pronounced it correctly with four syllables. It's bad enough karaoke is butchered, but that's karaoke. There's too much thoughtfulness behind the Pecha Kucha movement to insist on pronouncing it so incorrectly on Wikipedia. Tuxkapono (talk) 15:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for fixing this Tuxkapono. In conferring with native Japanese speakers from Osaka, they say it is pronounced pe-cha-ku-cha. Four syllables. On youtube it is pronounced this way here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSKQd4uWKE#t=25s

I too appreciate the link to the native speakers saying it various ways. Kristinwt (talk) 18:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

However, at this Tokyo event they are pronouncing it pe-chak-cha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqhJl1Y4zxc#t=38s But they dont seem to be native speakers.

I have a feeling there might be slightly different pronunciations depending on local accents/dialects, but I do not know any native speakers from Tokyo. 96.48.205.92 (talk) 05:55, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update - I have also checked with another friend from Saitama, which is just North of Tokyo, and they also pronounce it "pe-cha-ku-cha" 96.48.205.92 (talk) 20:41, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank goodness. I went to an event tonight and wondered what they thought they were saying when they used three syllables, especially when they had video from the founders saying it the same way. Turns out I'm neither crazy nor wrong. --72.221.67.18 (talk) 02:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

pe-CHA-ku-cha would be the default in japanese but if they sense it's a trademark/buzzword/foreign word, they could also go for PE-cha-KU-cha. it's just a matter of what's caught on at this point.

incidentally, the "u" is rushed (near silent) only if UNSTRESSED. that is, the first version sounds like "pe-CHA-k'cha" (or even "pe-CHAK-cha"), but the second version is still PE-cha-KU-cha with a strong "u".

btw, the word for chaos is me-CHA-ku-cha (me-CHA-k'cha/me-CHAK-cha) and is extremely common, even where we might say "a mess" or "rushjob" in english. there is a bit of wordplay here, in that pechakucha consists of chaotic/rushed presentations. 66.105.218.14 (talk) 02:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. This tidbit is important. Non-Japanese speakers would never have known this. Kristinwt (talk) 18:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing

According to [1], the term Pecha Kucha is a registered trade mark, and you need to get approval (a local organizer told me even a license) to organize one. This means agreeing to the terms of use, which includes giving "a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive right and license to use, display, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, distribute, perform, promote, archive, translate, and to create derivative works and compilations, in whole or in part" from anything that has been published on the website to the Pecha Kucha organization. Lord Yo (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed -- I'm amazed anybody's prepared to sign up for such corporate pwnage just to use a cool-sounding name. I'm also a little disappointed that this 'pedia entry reads so much like a marketing leaflet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.48.42 (talk) 11:17, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility

Somebody added comments about the accessibility of Pecha Kucha style and guidelines on how to improve the accessibility, which was promptly removed. I have reinstated these additions as I feel they are constructive and bring up a good point about the drawbacks of the style with real guidelines on how to address these drawbacks. Ndufva (talk) 11:30, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A wikipedia article is not the place for these. Articles should not contain original reasearch or personal opinion. I see someone has already removed the section. - SimonLyall (talk) 11:13, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Restructuring

I just read the article and didn't really get what its about. The first paragraph is about pronounciation and not the thing itself. I will mov the pronounciation part in its own chapter and try to rehash a good definition of the term as expected from a encyclopedia. Please improve further... SebastianHellmann (talk) 09:58, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Syllabic stress

Which syllables are stressed? I have heard different versions. —Michael Z. 2011-11-13 15:53 z

murcia spain pecha kucha

Here in murcia spain pecha kucha acts as a kind of twitter;fast paced or linkedin professional networking but face 2 face for interesting people with this being the end.Plus it helps people connect in the job market.Curious how different cultures adapt to quick talks.Spanish like to go on and on and pecha kucha is a challenge while americans are born accustomed to short fast pitches.en murcia pecha kucha empezo hace pocos años y hoy en dia es parte de la cultura de nuestra ciudad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.148.97.68 (talk) 22:05, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A removed paragraph copied here

In compliance with the spirit (and perhaps the letter) of WP:PRESERVE, I've reproduced here a paragraph removed by this recent revert[2]:

To start a PechaKucha Night, potential organizers contact the PechaKucha organization, and after an informal application process, exchange a "handshake" agreement.^[1] Organizers are asked to produce a minimum of 4 events a year. If a PechaKucha Night series becomes inactive due to an organizer no longer being able to run it, someone else can apply to restart it. Only one PechaKucha Night series is allowed per city.

WP:SPA edits can be problematic, and perhaps there was some extraneous "spammy" linking elsewhere in the edit reverted. However, just as we should not bite newbies, we also shouldn't sweep their useful contributions under the rug without comment. Perhaps the above paragraph lacks independent sourcing, but I think we can agree that simply adding an attribution to the effect of "according to the PechaKucha Night official website", there's no policy violation here, as long as the website actually does say some such thing. (And it is a paraphrase, so there's no objection from WP:PLAG.) The question is only whether it's appropriate for this article to include what might be legitimately removed only under a rather strained reading of WP:NOTHOWTO. If there's no objection, I'll restore it within a few days. Yakushima (talk) 15:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Concur with readding the graf with your suggested attribution; it's of general interest how these things come to be. PRRfan (talk) 20:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Without word from the original deleter, I'll assume we've reached consensus. Paragraph restored. Yakushima (talk) 03:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://pecha-kucha.org/night/start-a-city

pechakucha.org is blacklisted by Wikipedia

I was updating a link to show a more-to-date figure for number of cities, and ran across the issue that Wikipedia isn't allowing links to PechaKucha's current domain (pechakucha.org) as it is wrongly blacklisted as a spam link. I noticed that all the URLs on this page are to pecha-kucha.org (which just redirects to pechakucha.org). I'm guessing PechaKucha used to use pecha-kucha.org until it bought up the pechakucha.org domain from a cybersquatter? pechakucha.org should be removed from the blacklist. I don't know who handels these things, as I'm a Wikipedia newbie. — Lee A. Christie (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you diagnosed this correctly, digging around in the Wayback machine, it appears that domain was owned by a cybersquatter and/or was parked at various times from 2008 to 2012, but in late 2012 the real Pecha Kucha people got control of it and have had it since. It appears removals are handled here: Wikipedia:SBL#Proposed_removals. --Krelnik (talk) 19:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, I just looked in the log they keep here, and it doesn't show pechakucha.org as actually being blacklisted. So I'm confused now. --Krelnik (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried it again on my Sandbox to doublecheck, definitely blocked "The following text is what triggered our spam filter: pechakucha.org"

Does one have to be an admin to post on proposed removals? — Lee A. Christie (talk) 07:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It seems as if anyone can propose removal, I've added an entry to the proposed removals. — Lee A. Christie (talk) 16:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently it is blocked by the meta list not by the local Wikipedia list so I have now posted about it there. — Lee A. Christie (talk) 09:19, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Removed from the blacklist now. --Glaisher [talk] 10:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Glaisher, I've updated the hyperlinks to pechakucha.org on this article now. — Lee A. Christie (talk) 15:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Missing References

It appears that someone edited the page and removed most of the references, without updating the post to remove the links to the references in the main paragraphs. It may have been accidental, but I don't know the protocol for these types of issues. Can someone update the post with the correct (and recommended) references? --170.146.221.73 (talk) 19:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC) Alex Lowe[reply]

[1] ttp://pecha-kucha.org/night/start-a-city

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