Talk:Pease family

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Reason for creation

I created this page so (a) the links of the various Darlington Peases would be clearer and (b) so we might get rid of some separate entries that are only there to connect two people who deserve entries. I also checked the Dictionary of National Biography. The following members of the family all have entries:

Fry [nee Pease], Sophia, Lady Fry (1837-1897), philanthropist and political activist
Nichol, Elizabeth Pease [nee Elizabeth Pease] (1807-1897), slavery abolitionist and radical
Pease, Sir Alfred Edward, second baronet (1857-1939), politician and sportsman
Pease, Sir Arthur Francis, first baronet (1866-1927), coal owner and industrialist
Pease, Edward (1767-1858), woollen manufacturer and railway promoter
Pease, Henry (1807-1881), Quaker railway company promoter found in Pease, Edward (1767-1858), woollen manufacturer and railway promoter
Pease, John William Beaumont, first Baron Wardington (1869-1950), banker
Pease, Joseph (1799-1872), Quaker railway company promoter and industrialist found in Pease, Edward (1767-1858), woollen manufacturer and railway promoter
Pease, Joseph Albert [Jack], first Baron Gainford (1860-1943), politician
Pease, Sir Joseph Whitwell, first baronet (1828-1903), industrialist and banker

Many of them already have Wikipedia entries but not all--Erp 19:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pease Partners Bank

Does Pease Partners Bank deserve a separate entry? Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 15:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As it is long defunct and nothing seems to link to it or is likely to in the near future, I don't think so. --Erp (talk) 01:07, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a general article on Quaker-run provincial banks an their eventual fate of being swallowed by Barclay or Lloyds or going bust. I got the impression somewhere tha the Pease Bank was more like a merchant bank for North East enterprises and its demise hurt the region badly. How did it collapse? Was Sir Jonathan Backhouse, 1st Baronet the villain of the piece, as I read somewhere. At the moment, I am working on Category:Members of Parliament for constituencies in Cornwall, which is fairly extensive . . . so maybe sometime. BTW have you seen a copy of Milligan's Biographical dictionary of British Quakers in commerce and industry? Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 08:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too sure about the ins and outs of the Pease Bank except that its collapse was a bit of a scandal for the family (see http://www.durhampast.net/banks.html) and the family controlled much of the North East. I haven't seen the Biographical Dictionary. I wonder how many of my relatives I know of are in it? Does it mention Alfred Brooks? As far as an entry, it might be better part of a banking history article--Erp (talk) 00:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it requires an understanding of how the Quaker family banks operated, in conjunction with the very complex inter-family relationships, which to say the very least are extensive and convoluted. To be sure, it is almost impossible to discuss Quaker family enterprise and Quaker finance, without reference to the fact that whichever way one looks, Backhouses, Lloyds, Gurneys, Pease, Barclays and so forth, were, are and continue to be connected in some way or form by either blood or marriage. Through those connections, enterprise or capital finance could be raised and sometimes negated. With reference to the collapse of the Pease family bank, in simplistic terms, it stemmed from a combination of factors; primarily, the actions of Beatrice Pease, at the behest of her husband, Newton Wallop, (The Earl of Portsmouth), seeking her inheritance, via her uncle and sometime guardian, Joseph Whitwell Pease. Secondly, in order to mitigate this, at a time of depressed markets, the difficulties encountered resulted in a court action that found against Joseph W. Pease, thus bringing the bank to its knees and thus the family enterprise. And no... Sir Jonathan Backhouse was not the villain, indeed Christopher Furness, 1st Baron Furness, Ted Backhouse and Arthur Francis Pease, were a predominant force in saving the Pease family from a situation of bankruptcy, albeit leaving them in challenging circumstances. (See "A Wealth of Happiness & Many Bitter Trials". Joseph Gurney Pease. 1992. ISBN 1 85072 107 6) and (Men of Business and Politics. M. W. Kirby. George Allen & Unwin. 1984. ISBN 0-04-941013-X.) Charles681 (talk) 22:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Haunting Of Miss Pease

Section removed, starting "In a house In Darlington, There have been regular disturbances . . ." removed as (1) Unreferenced (2) Claim of haunted house is not particularly relevant to the rest of the article. (3) Claims about haunted houses are not encyclopaedically notable.

If there is some reliable evidence that someone claims a house in Darlington is haunted by a member of the Pease family and that this is demonstrably "notable", then it should be a separate page. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 18:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]