Talk:Payne Whitney House/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 17:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this! — GhostRiver 17:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• "It was designed by the architect Stanford White of the firm McKim, Mead & White in the High Italian Renaissance style." → "It was designed in the High Italian Renaissance style by the architect Stanford White of the firm McKim, Mead & White." As it stands, it sounds like White is in the style, not the building
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "The French government bought the building in 1952." → "The French government purchased the building five years later." to break up the flow of the paragraph
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Site

• There is a yard on the south side of the house, separating it from the James B. Duke House directly to the south. Redundancy between this and the previous sentence can be cleared up
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Do we know what happened to the rear entrance, or at least when it was removed?
  • There is a vacant lot in the rear of the building, but it's not owned by France, unlike the yard on the south side of the house, which is. Sadly, I couldn't find more recent sources that specifically mention what happened to the yard. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Design

• Pipe "High Italian Renaissance" to Renaissance Revival architecture in the body as well as the lede
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• Complete aside – Stanford White is a minor character in the musical Ragtime
  • I'm not surprised. Actually, the story of his death is quite interesting, he was killed in a building he'd designed by a deranged millionaire who he thought of as a clown. It's a shame White's own article is bad, though. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Facade

• Switch the information in the first two sentences for better flow
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• The side garden had been designed along with the rest of the house. I assume you mean it was designed at the same time, by the same people, etc. but that is not clear in the current phrasing
  •  Fixed Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Interior

• "in the TV shows" → "in episodes of the TV shows"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "In 2009, the genuine statue was placed"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "on the house's south wall" → "on the south wall of the house"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• I'm not quite sure what a "Louis XV clock" is
  • Me neither. I've removed it. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "Immediately in front of it is another reception room"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• a salon with velvet hangings and pictures on the walls. sentence fragment

History

Construction

• "had not been installed yet" → "had not yet been installed"
  •  Fixed Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• WL dumbwaiter
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "The house took so long to construct that two of the Whitneys' children, John (Jock) and Joan, were born while the house was under construction." → "During this long period of construction, Helen gave birth to the Whitneys' first two children, John (Jock) and Joan."
  •  Done, though Jock and Joan were the Whitneys' only two children, so I have clarified that. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Residential use

• When listing "events, such as", alternate using "such as" with "including" and other similar words
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

French Cultural Services

• "which in turn" → "who in turn"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "cultural services division" is not capitalized in the second sentence but is everywhere else
  •  Fixed Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "outside a country's capital city"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "The French Cultural Services office was among the United States' busiest cultural-exchange buildings by 1964." → "By 1964, the French Cultural Services office was among the United States' busiest cultural-exchange buildings."
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "19th- and early 20th-century" uses numerals, whereas prior sections wrote out the numbers of centuries
  • I have changed them all to numerals for consistency. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
• "facade was renovated in 1980" → "were renovated in 1980"
  •  Done Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

References

• Good

General comments

• Earwig score checks out at 27.5%, with the highest numbers due to attributed direct quotes
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• All photos are Creative Common licensed and are relevant to the article

Putting on hold to allow nominator to address comments. Ping me if there are any questions. — GhostRiver 18:20, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@GhostRiver: Thanks a lot for the review. I've resolved all of these issues now. Epicgenius (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Great job, speedy as always! Passing now :) — GhostRiver 23:12, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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