Talk:Pavel Batitsky

Date of photograph

In the information accompanying the photograph of Batitsky it is stated that it dates from 1941. However, Batitsky was born in 1910 and so would have been 31 years old in 1941. This photograph is clearly of a much older man. Perhaps the photo was taken in 1968, when Batitsky became a Marshall of the Soviet Union. That being the case, does this alter the copyright issues surrounding this image? Dubmill (talk) 09:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Batitsky Pavel Fyodorovich .jpg Nominated for Deletion

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I want to add the image Batitsky.jpg and it is now showing up. It looks fine on the Russian Wikipedia. Curro2 (talk) 07:29, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

That image is locally uploaded to the Russian Wikipedia because it is copyrighted and not released under a free license. Only free images can be uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons to be used on all Wikimedia Foundation projects; this one cannot. If the image is to be used on the English Wikipedia, you will need to upload it locally and provide a rationale why using the image in this article complies with the non-free content criteria. Huon (talk) 10:10, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Listing of the awards

@PlanespotterA320: Due to your recent insistence on removing individual mention of the awards and medals, could you please explain why you are so adamant about NOT mentioning each one of them by name? See e.g. this edit you made. cherkash (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Jubilee medals are redundant and uninformative, and campaign medals are implied through biographical details in the paragraphs describing their career. It is not inherent that every military survivor of the Eastern Front of WWII got an order of lenin, but it is redundant to say they got a campaign medal for something that their biography says they participated in. I am certainly more supportive of campaign medal listings than jubilee medal listing though, because listing jubilee medals received is patently useless and uninformative in cases like this.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@PlanespotterA320: Is this just your personal opinion, or is this rather widely supported on Wiki? cherkash (talk) 00:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

It is a standard operating procedure to not list jubilee medals except in rare circumstances (ex, for people who received them outside of the award criteria or in questionable circumstances). Campaign medals are occasionally listed but excluded more often than not, while jubilee medals are almost never listed. Consensus is clear against listing jubilee medals in regular biographies of people with the rank of Polkovnik and lower, with the practice being slightly less unusual in the biographies of higher-ranking people. Users with edit histories in the Soviet biography area like User:Kges1901 and User:Biographer are strongly against it.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 01:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

So far, I haven't butt in and tried to disrupt your editing by telling how articles on formula one drivers should be formatted. But I think that considering Soviet biographies are not your primary area of writing, you really shouldn't be making decisions here any more than I should be trying to change the SOP (standard operating procedure) for formula one lists and whatnot. Kapish?--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 01:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@PlanespotterA320: Your attempt at arguing about other subjects not discussed here, is not relevant – so I'll leave it at that. As for the subject of Batitsky's awards, there are plenty high-ranking military people whose award summaries list all such medals fully. You can see some examples here and here. And in fact, you admitted as much in your reply above ("...the practice being slightly less unusual in the biographies of higher-ranking people"). So with Batitsky being ranked Marshal, there's a good case for his awards to be listed fully. cherkash (talk) 01:42, 1 July 2019 (UTC)