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Religion

Was he a Roman Catholic? If so, his attempt to abduct an heiress would have led to a marriage banned by the rules on Raptio, but could have been OK if he was an Anglican. His wife's father was an Anglican Jacobite. He was obviously unbiased but a reference would be useful.86.46.206.117 (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daughter

According to German Wiki, his daughter Lady Mary Sarsfield was a lady-in-waiting to the queen of Spain and married Theodore von Neuhoff, better known as Theodore of Corsica. Worth adding? Moixa (talk) 13:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Covered in Bio details; not his daughter, a distant cousin. Robinvp11 (talk) 12:11, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How far back do we go?

The article includes this true fact: "The extended family of the powerful family of O'Mores, an estimated 120 people, had been virtually wiped out by the English during the Massacre of Mullaghmast."

But also in the 1570s Patrick Sarsfield's O'More ancestor Calvagh (a lawyer) had been given an estate in Kildare by Queen Elizabeth. Quoting a negative and ignoring a positive seems very POV. Should we include neither or both? Being nearly a century before PS was born.78.17.17.199 (talk) 08:05, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wauchope's (very good) biography makes the point that the O'Mores had intermarried with a lot of Pale families rather as the Sarsfields had intermarried with Gaelic nobility. In other words, surnames don't tell you very much about political allegiance during the period, contrary to the assumptions of 19th century historians.

Perhaps the main interest of Sarsfield's background is that his varied family connections were one of the things that helped him become a very influential figure in the army after 1688.Svejk74 (talk) 20:40, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]