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"Pasha" today

According to comments from a couple of Turkish speakers in Talk:Erke Energy Research and Engineering Corporation, today, "Pasha" is an informal term used to refer to General-equivalent rank or above Turkish military officers, both serving and retired. It is not in formal use by the military. I would add a line to this effect somewhere in the article but I don't have a better reference. --Wfaxon 13:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008

Removed Military History tag as article is out of scope of the project. This article deals with a honorific title that was given to both military persons as well as politicians. Just because some military people held this title doesn't qualify it as military history. --dashiellx (talk) 20:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About Etymology of Turkish word Pasha

There is a strong view that the word Pasha comes from Turkic word "beşe", meaning "son of a noble man". And there is another view that it comes from Persian word "baçça"(بچّه), which means "kid". In either ways, I think this word was not evolved from padishah. There is not a significant proof for it. For etymology of pasha, you can refer to a Turkish etymological dictionary, nisanyansozluk.com, http://www.nisanyansozluk.com/?k=pa%C5%9Fa 94.121.190.42 (talk) 14:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of notable pashas

In many cases the wikilink is to an article with a different title which sometimes appears in brackets as well. Perhaps the wikilink should be from the article's name, the latter added where lacking. Mcljlm (talk) 12:38, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's probably fine to link via a slightly different format of the name if it's more relevant to the context of the article, but either way is fine in my opinion.

Though I think a bigger question about this section is: do we really need a "list of pashas" in this article? I don't see why this list is informative, given that it's already very long and there's no logical criteria to what counts as "notable". This seems like the exact function a category like is supposed to serve, or a separate list article. R Prazeres (talk) 18:00, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting here that I've tagged the list section with a cleanup template to encourage some discussion on whether the list is appropriate as is. So far, it just keeps growing. R Prazeres (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Names in lead

I've removed a recent addition as well as some older clutter in the lead ([1]). This is not a multi-language dictionary, and per WP:OTHERNAMES only significant other names should be mentioned in the lead (especially if those names redirect here). It's not feasible or helpful to English readers to list every possible name in every geographically related language, not to mention languages outside the Ottoman Empire which also used it and could be added by that standard. That's what Wiktionary and other-language Wikipedia articles are for (see also WP:NOTDICT). These names are also not relevant to the "Etymology" section. I've recommended removing all but the most important alternate names: Turkish and Arabic, which readers are more likely to come across. (And arguably these could be omitted or revised too; etymology aside, I'm not sure if it had any modern usage in Persian?) Additionally, the word is practically always spelled "pasha" in English sources, not pacha (French) or paşa (Turkish). I've moved mention of the other obsolete form to a footnote. Other suggestions welcome. R Prazeres (talk) 07:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]