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Nominator: Snoteleks (talk · contribs) 13:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Fritzmann2002 (talk · contribs) 17:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi Snoteleks, always a pleasure to work on one of your articles; thanks for your continued work on protist coverage. I know that with this kind of taxa information is often limited, so just let me know if a question raised in the review can't be answered.
- A brief explanation of what a sporangium is would be warranted in the lede
- You're right. I explained it very briefly, let me know if it's enough.
- Am I reading correctly that Parvilucifera are closely related to the dinoflagellates they parasitize? If so, that is an interesting fact that could stand to be expanded on / made more clear
- Honestly there isn't much to say, I mention it more in-depth within the Perkinsea article. Basically, molecular phylogenetics demonstrate that Perkinsozoa are the closest relatives of dinoflagellates, even though ecologically they resemble Apicomplexa, so much so that the author who first described Perkinsea proposed them as the most basal Apicomplexa. I did add "according to molecular phylogenetics" for slightly more context.
- Is it appropriate to call a bloom of dinoflagellates an "algal bloom" if they are not algae?
- They actually are algae! At least half of them are photosynthetic, and are treated as an algal phylum by phycologists (see Guiry, 2024 or AlgaeBase). Even the Harmful algal bloom article mentions dinoflagellate blooms.
- I learned something new today! Thank you for that
- They actually are algae! At least half of them are photosynthetic, and are treated as an algal phylum by phycologists (see Guiry, 2024 or AlgaeBase). Even the Harmful algal bloom article mentions dinoflagellate blooms.
- "which has increased their importance in marine ecology" since when and to whom? I think this clause could be written more simply
- Frankly, this sentence is what little remains from old edits earlier than my contribution, and I was really unsure of where it even comes from, because it was unsourced, and even after reading sources I never found that particular message. I decided to omit it entirely, for now.
- What does "zooids" mean, and is there a more straightforward word for it?
- It's a term that I usually see to refer to individuals in a colonial animal, but for some reason the authors use it to describe the etymology of Parvilucifera, essentially as a synonym for organisms. I modified it for better understanding.
- Does the etymology come straight from the paper? I only ask because it says "lucidus" (shining) when the second part is actually "lucifera" (light-bearing)
- Yes, it does. It's a common occurrence that the roots of the names don't exactly match the names themselves. I never dare changing the etymology section too much, for fear of WP:OR, and also I'm no linguist.
- Works for me
- Yes, it does. It's a common occurrence that the roots of the names don't exactly match the names themselves. I never dare changing the etymology section too much, for fear of WP:OR, and also I'm no linguist.
- "and there was much debate that sporangia did not arise from parasites" perhaps 'about whether sporangia arose from parasites'
- What are apicomplexans?
- I added a link to Apicomplexa. Not sure if it requires further explanation, since they're never mentioned in a focused manner in this particular article. If you consider it requires further elaboration, please do tell me. It's very funny, however, to notice that I didn't link the name, since I usually over-link taxon names.
- A link is good, thanks
- I added a link to Apicomplexa. Not sure if it requires further explanation, since they're never mentioned in a focused manner in this particular article. If you consider it requires further elaboration, please do tell me. It's very funny, however, to notice that I didn't link the name, since I usually over-link taxon names.
- "several other perkinsozoan genera" thoughts on listing one or two of these to give an idea of close relatives?
- Done. As it turns out, it was rather 'two' instead of 'several'.
- "There are currently" as of when?
- I added "as of 2020".
- If it exists, a sentence on what sets each species apart from one another would be very helpful
- It's a bad habit of mine that I never mention things such as size range and differences between species. I added several brief phrases to show the differences that they have from the type species.
- The added sentences look good
- It's a bad habit of mine that I never mention things such as size range and differences between species. I added several brief phrases to show the differences that they have from the type species.
- I've tried to simplify some sentences; there was a bit of overuse of commas
- Much appreciated. Another bad habit of mine, I try to take notice of it because I also have a hard time reading such long sentences.
- "These structures likely play a role in the infection of cells." do we know what kind of role?
- I added an explanation for their likely role.
- I see you list the differences between the zoospores here; that's probably sufficient for differentiation but if there are any miscellaneous feature differences I would still include those
- Like I said above, I added more differences, but in the 'Classification' section instead.
- Are the "extreme conditions" just cold temperatures, or other types of extremes?
- Only cold temperatures are mentioned, so I only mention those.
- For the host range, you cite "studies" but only include one reference
- Oops. Added another study.
- "recently" as of when?
- Another remnant prior to my contributions. Removed.
- "harmful to the shellfish industry, as well as producers of potent toxins" makes it sound like the blooms hurt people who produce potent toxins
- True. I modified the sentence.
- I would remove "It is a worldwide problem that has gained significant importance over the last couple decades"
- Another remnant that I removed.
- Looking back at the lead, the last sentence can be much more straightforward. Just say that the genus could help control dinoflagellate booms, instead of referencing "interactions" between them and Dinoflagellates
- Done.
- Unfortunately, I don't have access to most of the research papers used here. I was able to verify both claims of reference [10], and reference [11] confirms the unity of the two species. I will take on good faith that the other references are used appropriately.
- Am I allowed to suggest sci-hub?
- I would love to, but I edit on a network whose administrators aren't particularly fond of the skull and bones
- Am I allowed to suggest sci-hub?
- Images are properly licensed, both papers are under an appropriate Creative Commons licenses
- Yay!
That's all I have! Give me a ping when you've responded to the above points. Fritzmann (message me) 17:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fritzmann2002: Thanks a lot for the review. I responded to all points, let me know if you need anything else. — Snoteleks (talk) 19:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- looks great, thank you for the speedy response! Approving now, congrats on another GA, Fritzmann (message me) 19:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)