Talk:Parliament House, New Delhi/Archive 1
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[edit]Kishore Editing, could you please explain why "The previous title appears unsatisfactory
"? The current title is not a likely search term, and the building hasn't been named "Parliament House" yet. Even if it was, to keep in line with article naming conventions I've seen, this one would probably be moved to Parliament House, New Delhi and the old one would be moved to Parliament House, New Delhi (built 1927) or something similar (I might be wrong about this bit, but still, the current title is an unlikely search term). I propose moving the article back to its original title. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 05:43, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'd agree with moving back to the old title. The new building isn't named, so the current title is WP:TOOSOON (in the context of article title, of course) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Kishore Editing: Could you please give your input?
- I am going to link this on the India noticeboard also, to get more opinions. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 09:59, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - I agree that the old title was fine. Kishore Editing should not be moving such important pages without discussion, and based on such flimsy personal reasons. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Reverted There is a clear consensus to revert the bold, undiscussed and clearly controversial page rename. I have reverted the move. Kishore Editing, Any further rename should only be done after page rename discussion. --Venkat TL (talk) 15:21, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed Once it is finished & operating we can rearrange the titles. Johnbod (talk) 20:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Parliament vs parliament
[edit]- comment shouldn't 'p' in Parliament be capitalised? Sajaypal007 (talk) 18:26, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sajaypal007 yes. Done. Venkat TL (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think the lowercase p should be used. The noun here is "parliament building", the two words together making a single common noun. Kind regards, W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 17:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Indian Parliament" is the entity, Hence I believe capital P is applicable, The RS are also following capital P. Venkat TL (talk) 18:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- The entity this article is about is the building, not the parliament that sits in it. Most newspapers do frequently make no distinction in re the capitalisation, and indeed I would not object if it were a proper noun under discussion; however, this article's title is a common noun, and so should follow correct grammar. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 18:17, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- To clarify, "new" and "Indian" are adjectives here, and the noun is "parliament building", a common noun. The letter is capitalised only where the legislature is called by its name, a proper noun - for example, United States Congress (and, well, Parliament of India, but that P would've been capitalised anyway, being the first letter). W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 18:25, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI I respectfully disagree. Please look at the ref section. All except 1 are using capital P. Lets see what others say. ping @Johnbod Venkat TL (talk) 18:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I addressed that. We shouldn't blindly follow refs' bad grammar in the name of COMMONNAME. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 08:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The consensus at Parliament of India appears to be that "Parliament" is capitalized wherever it is used to represent the entity, which is also the case here. We should be consistent between articles. Presumably, the building will get an official name sometime later this year, at which point this debate should no longer be relevant. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The point is that the word parliament here is not used to represent the legislature, it is used as a descriptor, like so:
- "This is a building."
- "What kind of building?"
- "A parliament building."
- Since the word parliament is not a proper noun, in this case, the lowercase form is grammatically correct. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 13:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- The point is that the word parliament here is not used to represent the legislature, it is used as a descriptor, like so:
- The consensus at Parliament of India appears to be that "Parliament" is capitalized wherever it is used to represent the entity, which is also the case here. We should be consistent between articles. Presumably, the building will get an official name sometime later this year, at which point this debate should no longer be relevant. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I addressed that. We shouldn't blindly follow refs' bad grammar in the name of COMMONNAME. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 08:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI I respectfully disagree. Please look at the ref section. All except 1 are using capital P. Lets see what others say. ping @Johnbod Venkat TL (talk) 18:33, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Indian Parliament" is the entity, Hence I believe capital P is applicable, The RS are also following capital P. Venkat TL (talk) 18:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think the lowercase p should be used. The noun here is "parliament building", the two words together making a single common noun. Kind regards, W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 17:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Try a Wikipedia search on "Parliament Building" - everywhere else seems capitalized, and to capitalize throughout the article in most cases. I'm sure India would object to be treated differently. Johnbod (talk) 16:27, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- See this n-gram. Per MOS:CAPS, indian parliament building is not consistently capitalised in sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinderella157 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Name change, again
[edit]Hemant Dabral, could you please explain why you moved the article? Has the building been given the name New Parliament House? I don't see any new development in the news, but I could be missing it. W. Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/c) 18:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI I suggest that the name change be reverted. Undiscussed controversial renames must not be done without discussion. Venkat TL (talk) 11:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
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- Move it to Parliament House of India Rahil1610 (talk) 06:33, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
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