Talk:Parameswara of Malacca

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Map on srivijaya and majapahit

I doubt the map is correct. It shows both kingdom exerting influence over eastern India and part of Indo-China despite the fact that on India eastern shore, there was the Chola while on Indochina, Khmer Empire. __earth ^(Talk)

Mere Rubbish

How can that so called King have Indian name (Parameswara) and being a Hindu if he is Macedonian descendant? What a Rubbish !!!!!

.:My Reply:.

Rubbish, eh? Have you checked what you have written? What is wrong with you and your grammar, man!? It is not "What a Rubbish!!!!!" It is "What Rubbish" Where did you learn your grammar? A monkey!? Speaking of monkeys, why do you have to complain? People have eyes you know, I bet they SEE that that there was an error. Why do you even bother complaining? Complaining won't get you anything, FYI. And in case you don't know what FYI is, and I bet you probably don't, it means for your information. I hope you learned your lesson, you idiot. Because it is an important one.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.164.32 (talk • contribs)

hey mind your words.Your grammar is worst than me.My grammar is not rubbish.You idiot.Its my business whether want to complain or anything else.Why you bother with me.Parameswara is an Indian.You the one stupidly tell that he's not a Tamilian.You have seen that he's not tamilian?no right..then why you busy body wrote that he's not a tamilian.Next time mind your words if not I don't know what will I do.

Guys, stop arguing! It is not going to change anything. Alright, let me tell you. Parameswara was a Tamilian, but he changed his religion to Islam (don't know why) after he got married, and therefore changed his name to Sultan Iskandar Shah, on my opinion. RaniaKamilia2512 (talk) 06:05, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RaniaKamilia2512 His lineage is disputed, but he is definitely a Malaccan. MahmoudAbbasAlDilfti (talk) 08:51, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Common Ancestry

Parameswara is undoubtedly a Sanskrit word for Lord Shiva the Hindu Trinity God. It not exclusive to Tamil only .Telugu ,Malayalee,Urdu and all of Hindu India know the Lord by that name. The Srivijaya empayar origin by its name alone tell us it did not suddenly appear by magic . So there would have been a great deal of interaction of culture , dynasty and blood line from india. Indian + native people= Srivijaya ppl. So we have common ancestry there. btw Genghis Khan & Alaxender we're not Tamil. Don't try to confuse ppl with Dravidian supremesy BS. The British did that ready. And do not associate tamil with a blood thirsty tyrant like Alexander who wasn't that great .Gengis Khan -would be fun to see him talk Tamil actually # won't happen. Yashver (talk) 09:00, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Veracity

What is the basis of this communal rhetoric? Any prim. source which makes similar claims? TrangaBellam (talk) 21:16, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3: Do you know of editors having expertise in Indonesian history? The projects are inactive. TrangaBellam (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, not my cup of tea. But Wink might have some information. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Islam conversion

Please discuss before changing his religion to Islam. He was unquestionably a Hindu, but whether he converted to Islam or not is doubtful, and should not be changed in the infobox. The issue is discussed in the appropriate section, any claim can be added to that section with an authoritative source. Hzh (talk) 17:17, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You didn’t learn history, Parameswara was converted to Islam when he was married to Samudra Pasai princess.The oldest evidence in Sulalatus Salatin Kangkungkap (talk) 23:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is already mentioned in the section on Religious belief. Read that part first, then discuss if his religion on the infobox needs to be changed. There are sources that are contradictory and confusing, so it is up to academics to work out what is more likely to be true. If you can find authoritative sources that have looked at all the evidence and say that he did convert, then give that as the source, and we can consider whether it can be changed. Hzh (talk) 00:50, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:

Tugu Parameswara.jpg

You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to use File:Keramat Iskandar Syah, Fort Canning Park, Singapore - 20110924.jpg as page image

Given that the illustration which formerly was used to illustrate Parameswara was deleted last year, would it be appropriate to use this photo of Keramat Iskandar Shah to depict him in his identity as Iskandar Shah? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Keramat_Iskandar_Syah,_Fort_Canning_Park,_Singapore_-_20110924.jpg Altopian1 (talk) 09:15, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not appropriate for the infobox. The one in Fort Canning is not a real one, since there is no evidence that he was buried there, or indeed if anyone was buried there. He was buried to the north of Melaka, not in Singapore. You might however use it somewhere else in the article, maybe in the last section. Hzh (talk) 07:52, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response! I am currently discussing with the artist of this image if she could release it for use on Wikipedia, as it is his likeness in a government-endorsed work: https://www.flickr.com/photos/fscwasteland/53296777916/in/dateposted-public/ , namely this educational comic . Altopian1 (talk) Altopian1 (talk) 10:27, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to use https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parameswara_of_Malacca_-_The_Sacking_of_Singapore_(Foo_Swee_Chin).jpg as page image

As per my last reply to the above enquiry, I have gained permission from Ms. Foo Swee Chin to upload her cover image for this graphic novel distributed by the Singaporean government: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parameswara_of_Malacca_-_The_Sacking_of_Singapore_(Foo_Swee_Chin).jpg . Would it be appropriate for the infobox? Altopian1 (talk) 07:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note that another file used for a long time in this page, File:Retrato de Parameswara.jpg was nominated for deletion but kept. Hzh (talk) 13:57, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]