Jump to content

Talk:Paradise Airlines Flight 901A

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Featured articleParadise Airlines Flight 901A is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.
Main Page trophyThis article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on March 1, 2024.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 2, 2021Good article nomineeListed
July 15, 2022Peer reviewReviewed
June 27, 2023Featured article candidateNot promoted
September 6, 2023Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 13, 2019.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after the crash of Paradise Airlines Flight 901A, the Federal Aviation Administration permanently grounded the airline's operations?
Current status: Featured article

GA Review

[edit]
This review is transcluded from Talk:Paradise Airlines Flight 901A/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 20:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Comments

  • "on March 1" could use non-breaking space. On my screen March and 1 are split.
  • "as he flew ... As he most..." mildly repetitive.
  • "made a special stop " what's "special"?
    I struggled for wording here. "Unscheduled" was close, because it was an unusual stop-- normally the airline just flew from San Jose or Oakland to Lake Tahoe, but obviously there was some pre-arranged pickup of these passengers. But "unscheduled" tends to imply "emergency" or "unexpected" which was not the case. I changed to "pre-arranged" instead of "special".
  • "load of passengers was waiting to board. with the final 63 passengers" repetitive use of "passengers".
  • "63/fifteen", be consistent, words/numbers in a sentence.
  • "cancelled" is this article USENG? Not sure but I thought canceled was one L for USENG.
  • Can we convert all Imperial units?
    Converted most. Units of altitude in flight are left in feet only because only China and former Soviet Countries use meters for aircraft altitudes, but where altitudes refer to mountain heights, etc., I have added the meters conversion. Also conversion for relatively small altitude differences (500 feet from ground, altimeter was 280 feet off, etc.)
  • Not sure how a ground witness could claim a flight was "operating normally" but I guess this means the approach was considered not strange or something and the plane wasn't all over the place?
  • "a ridge on Genoa Peak, Nevada.[5](p7) The ridge" ridge/ridge quick repeat is jarring.
  • "If the aircraft had been only 100 feet more to the right" remove "only".
  • You link Paradise Airlines in the lead but not the main body.
  • "United States history.[11][4]" order.
  • "2015 aerial view" avoid starting sentences or frags with a numeral.
  • "Air Force" link to USAF.
  • "after the Spring thaw" avoid seasons.
  • Not sure I understand that one. The snow in those mountains persists all winter, and victims buried under the snow would be hidden until the Spring thaw, an indefinite point in time where enough warm days had accumulated to melt the snow, usually around late April or May.
  • "jet helicopters" what's a jet heli?
    Turbine-powered helicopter. It's the phrase the news source used, and I didn't think in modern terms when I put that in.
  • "divert to Reno in order" link here.
  • "minimums" I guess my Latin head is killing me here, but that ought to be minima. Sue me.
  • "24-year-old Raymond Rickard" avoid starting with a numeral. And is his age useful? Reads a bit like a tabloid.
    I've taken it out, but I'm on the fence about it. Much of what the investigation revealed was that this airline was operated by a bunch of young, inexperienced kids (well, young twenty-something kids) which directly led to the accident. Aside from his age, there wasn't any direct statement that the guy who falsified the weather report was as unqualified as the guy who dispatched the plane from San Jose in the first place, but it was strongly hinted. But that dances close to OR territory and since it's such a minor part of the story I'm fine leaving it out.
  • "U.S. marshals would" in this case I would say " the United States Marshal Service" and be clear.
  • Don't we have a link for serial number?
    That's actually kind of a funny one, because it's one of the things I called out at Talk:1952 Farnborough Airshow crash/GA1 that might be considered overlinking. RecycledPixels (talk) 19:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "16 of the 18 passengers" avoid numerals, e.g. "All but two of the eighteen..."
  • Link probable cause.
  • Link altimeter.
  • "who did not perform all" conduct (to avoid the repetition.
  • Link tail wind.

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 18:30, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2024

[edit]

Rearrange the sections of the article such that "Investigation" precedes "Aftermath". (Ideally I would say "Aircraft"/"Passengers and Crew", "Accident", "Investigation", "Aftermath".) Otherwise, currently the sections are in non-chronological order which makes little sense for anyone attempting to understand the timeline of this. 2603:8001:4542:28FB:D83C:41C6:8B71:EABA (talk) 17:49, 1 March 2024 (UTC) (Send talk messages here)[reply]

The aftermath section deals with the immediate aftermath of the accident; the search for the wreckage and the recovery of the bodies, as well as the attempts of the airline to keep flying. The investigation took place over the next year, with the final report being released on July 15, 1965. The article is not out of chronological order, although the investigation did begin as soon as the wreckage was located, so that may be what you are referring to. RecycledPixels (talk) 20:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. RudolfRed (talk) 02:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]