Talk:Papilionoidea

Baroniinae

is there still the group of Baroniinae within the Papilionidae? They is only one species lifing in mexico?

Yes, It is a part of Papilionidae and consists of just one species in Mexico. To the best of my knowledge, that has not been disputed. LepIndex appears to be down so you can check from that later. Please make a habit of signing off using four tildes (~), so that we can answer your queries on your talk page.AshLin 04:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Needs attention

Someone with knowledge or access to papers on the phylogeny of the superfamily should check the relevant sections. Shyamal 03:51, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The placement of the moth-butterflies within the Papilionoidea has no support (no synapomorphies). They must just hang in there in limbo somewhere within the Rhopalocera. The skippers (Hesperiidae) and true butterflies (Papilionoidea) are sister groups. Within the Papilionoidea, the Papilionidae are the sister group to the rest. Lycaenidae and Riodinidae are sister groups, and the group (Lycaenidae+Riodinidae) is the sister group to the Nymphalidae. Pieridae, then, is the sister group to ((Lycaenidae+Riodinidae)+Nymphalidae). Do you want the current reading on Nymphalidae subfamilies? As I wrote in the article, all except Morphinae and Satyrinae are well supported. Everything looks OK and ready for the next better-supported hypothesis to knock everything once again in the trash. The new world classification of butterflies is expected this year (2008), but Lamas' 2008 paper (cited in the article) gives a hint of what will be proposed. When that paper is published, we can revisit this article. In the meantime, someone could safely make a cladogram of the Papilionoidae. BTW, I think the expert template should be placed on the article page (not that I am that much of an expert). --Wloveral (talk) 22:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]