Talk:Pangrammatic window

Letter frequencies

The formula in the article shows that the predicted length of a pangrammatic window depends on the letter frequencies in the source text. This dependence is not linear; instead it is both multiplicative and exponential. Small changes in letter frequency can make large changes in the predicted length of the window. This is characteristic of chaotic processes. This makes it difficult to define this prediction, in the same way that it is difficult to define the length of the coastline of Britain. Canon 15:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of probability of perfect window

Aside from the above problem, the meaning of "the probability of a perfect pangrammatic window" is unclear. As the window shortens the dependence of each letter on adjacent letters begins to dominate the probability, so the odds are not 556 billion to one. Canon 19:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did notice this, which is why I wrote "Technically,...". If you followed the equation exactly, there would even be a certain probability the 26 letters would appear in a window 25 letters long, which is obviously impossible. It was just a way to demonstrate how unlikely shorter windows are. Winndm31 17:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Verne

Presumably the pangram quoted is in a particular English translation; it would be good to say which. Pseudomonas_(talk) 12:17, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it helps anyone find the translation, the passage in question occurs near the end of Chapter 30. 91.105.23.90 (talk) 21:15, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quick brown fox

I know this article is supposed to be about naturally occurring pangrams, but shouldn't it at least give a nod to the best known pangram - "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"? Maybe under "see also" if not in text? --MelanieN (talk) 15:23, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Silly topic, but where are the other languages?

I ran across this article by accident. This sounds like a ridiculous exercise that's of no particular statistical or encyclopedic value. Why are you even bothering? This is almost as irrelevant as coin and stamp collecting.

But if you're going to be this serious about this random topic, then this needs to be applied to all languages, not just English. Where are the examples of this in Urdu and Slavic, and all the other written languages??

-- DMahalko (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Probably no one has yet published any pangrammatic windows in Urdu and Slavic and other written languages. If you know of any, please cite them in the article, or mention them here. —Psychonaut (talk) 15:29, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]