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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 April 2023

Per WP:NPOV, we are supposed to include all significant viewpoints in an article. Hence, we should add India as an alleged state supporter of TTP to the infobox, with a note stating that India has denied such allegations. Not only is this connection Pakistan's stated POV[1], but also substantiated by other sources such as Bharat Karnad[2], the UAE per Wikileaks[3] and Pakistani Taliban spokesperson Ehsanullah[4] (the veracity of his statment is confirmed by Karnad)[5] Solblaze (talk) 07:59, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. An addition to the infobox which will lack context is sure to be a contentious change that will require consensus before addition. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:02, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
@ScottishFinnishRadish let's try WP:BRDing this one? I say this because WP:NPOV is a pretty straightforward policy. Solblaze (talk) 09:41, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
It has been discussed previously, with insufficient support for its inclusion. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 10:50, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
If you're referring to this RFC, not only are the choices in the original RFC a bit poorly worded, but the vast majority of the arguments of those opposing it also boil down to "Pakistan said it so we shouldn't include it" which blatantly violates the very principle of WP:NPOV.
I don't think our personal biases can override Wikipedia policy. Discarding Pakistan's POV on the issue and taking India's as gospel truth isn't right. Solblaze (talk) 14:32, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Reopening this, it's been almost a year with no reply. Solblaze (talk) 07:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Sajid, Islamuddin. "Pakistan urges UN to act against India over terror sponsorship". AA.
  2. ^ Karnad (2017). "Afghanistan, Pakistan and the F-16: Mattis has to hardsell these issues on his visit to India". Hindustan Times.
  3. ^ Newspaper (2011). "UAE officials suspected India-Taliban link: WikiLeaks". Dawn.
  4. ^ Hassan, Raza (2017). "India, Afghanistan gave help to Pakistani Taliban, says group's ex-spokesman". Reuters.
  5. ^ Karnad (2017). "Afghanistan, Pakistan and the F-16: Mattis has to hardsell these issues on his visit to India". Hindustan Times.
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 16:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
@Shadow311: Add "India (alleged, denied by India)" in the infobox's allies section.
The plethora of sources in this section can be cited. Solblaze (talk) 12:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 August 2023

I would like to edit the opponents and allies of TTP up to date in 2023. Cosmickadet (talk) 20:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 20:55, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 September 2023

I think Islamic State should be removed as an "ally", because TTP has made many statements that they are not allied with ISKP. Cosmickadet (talk) 08:49, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

@Cosmickadet: Could you point to sources that mention this? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes ofcourse:
https://twitter.com/cozyduke_apt29/status/1685723305188196353
(TTP condemned the bombing in Bajaur stating that ISKP is run by Pakistani government)
https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1611391669319909379
(ISKP claims that TTP is a Western made proxy)
https://twitter.com/cozyduke_apt29/status/1687731626116096000
(TTP condemns the actions of ISKP and says they have nothing to do with them)
It is clear from these information that ISKP and TTP are not allied. Cosmickadet (talk) 15:14, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
https://www.ng.ru/world/2023-04-16/5_8707_organization.html
1 additional source: TTP made an interview with a Russian interviewer.
TTP stated in that interview clearly that they have nothing to do with ISKP/ISIS and are opposed to it. Cosmickadet (talk) 15:16, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I'm not considering the tweets as Twitter is not a reliable source, but the interview that you linked seems to support your change well enough. The existing sources are also a few years out of date at this point, so I'm willing to overturn them.  Done —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 April 2024

I WANT TO EDIT organization structure of TTP in which i want to mention various splinter groups that constitute TTP GlitteringSyed (talk) 14:03, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 14:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 April 2024 (2)

I want to edit Organizational structure of TTP in which i want to edit few more splinter groups of TTP GlitteringSyed (talk) 16:55, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. Shadow311 (talk) 18:07, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
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