Talk:Pablo Hidalgo

Insulting fandom

There is a single reliable source[1] mentioning that Hidalgo pissed off Star Wars fans, and that article mostly consists of screenshots of irate twitterers. I challenge that being WP:DUE for inclusion in the article. Schazjmd (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Wingsandsword to discuss properly rather than edit-warring. Schazjmd (talk) 20:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

The source does not support "he insulted a fan for being emotionally invested in Star Wars characters". It supports that he said "emotions are not sharing" and that fans complained. The rest of the article is all about individuals' complaints and criticism. This is a transient, unimportant internet kerfuffle that lacks significance and does not merit mention in an encyclopedia article. Schazjmd (talk) 20:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Aditional article. It has caused a trend world wide and had an impact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.71.161.68 (talk • contribs)

A twitter pile-on trending happens every day. Schazjmd (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

It's not just a twitter argument, it's getting coverage in actual media. There was the article in Deseret News I linked to. Routine twitter spats don't get newspaper articles devoted to them. Wingsandsword (talk) 21:12, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Wingsandsword, Routine twitter spats don't get newspaper articles devoted to them. Yes, they do, and Deseret News has a number of "twitter reacts" articles. If in a few weeks there is still ongoing coverage of this and additional attention by multiple sources, it might have legs as a meaningful event, but not at this stage. Schazjmd (talk) 21:16, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Agree, the only reason this received any coverage is because Star Wars news of any kind pushes traffic. There's very little clarity about what really occurred. This event isn't notable enough to be listed on this article. Nemov (talk) 01:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

References

Seems like a ridiculous standard to expect news coverage of this weeks from now. That's neither normal, in this case, nor a requirement of notability. Also this seems like a classic misuse of WP:DUE for content gatekeeping, as it's almost impossible for any source to claim it has a majority viewpoint, but that doesn't mean WP:DUE is license for editors to invalidate reliable sources based on the spectre of silent majority. The text states quite plainly that fans complained about it. Unless that's untrue or there is another perspective to consider, it's not really an issue of WP:DUE at all, it's a sourced statement of fact presented briefly. But more to the point, I'm here to point out the quote is "emotions are not for sharing", there is a typo in the article (quote can be found in the tweet). 161.69.122.15 (talk) 03:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/star-wars-lucasfilm-pablo-hidalgo-twitter/ here's another source if needed (with the correct quote). 161.69.122.15 (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Does anyone really think, if a biography of Pablo Hidalgo were to be written, that a YouTuber’s overreaction to a leaked tweet that did not actually reference him would merit inclusion? This was not a major event in the subject’s life, and its inclusion smacks of motivated editing by fans of the YouTuber whose feelings were hurt. Most biographical pages do not include social media spats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.183.91 (talk • contribs)

I agree the topic is ridiculous. However, it did receive significant coverage from multiple reliable sources. Nemov (talk) 03:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

A Wikipedia article is not obligated to cover everything that received coverage in multiple sources. A cursory glance at any other notable person’s biography will demonstrate that. What is the purpose of including this fluff, given that there is no consensus to do so on the talk page? This isn’t even the most notable thing to happen on Hidalgo’s social media. It’s only here because a YouTuber took offense and his overzealous fans feel they need to put a black mark on Hidalgo’s Wikipedia page. It should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.183.91 (talk • contribs)

Additional articles

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2020

Recent quote has a minor typo.

Original : In December of 2020, fans complained that Hidalgo reacted to a fan's video on Twitter by saying "emotions are not sharing".

Change to: In December of 2020, fans complained that Hidalgo reacted to a fan's video on Twitter by saying "emotions are not for sharing". Matvop (talk) 03:25, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Done - Typo corrected. Thadeuss (talk) 16:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

146.115.183.91 removal of content

Hello 146.115.183.91 (talk · contribs) Based on this diff it is clear that you are the one that deleted the content. Numerous editors have reverted your edit because you attempted to portray it as irrelevant. You are the one that must provide justification for this removal, not other editors that are reverting your edit. In my opinion, it is not just some "Twitter random talk" but it has been covered by sources, and the sources have been provided on the section. I will revert again to the stable version, and if you wanted to remove the section, discuss it here first. SunDawn (talk) 05:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)