Talk:PSP (disambiguation)/Old history
[discussion moved from user talk:Mzajac —MZ]
Hello. Can I ask why you used your rollback button to revert my change on this page? Administrators are only supposed to use their rollback privilege for vandalism, which my edit plainly was not. Also, I'd invite you to examine my comments at Talk:PSP -- the page has been the subject of an edit war, with folks arguing that it should redirect directly to PlayStation Portable instead of to the disambig page, which I disagree with. My solution was to emphasize the main uses (PlayStation Portable and Paint Shop Pro) on the disambig page, so that people interested in the game platform could quickly click through. In that light, will you please consider restoring my changes? · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 20:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry for the rollback; I should have entered an edit summary.
- I reverted your change because
- The two items are already made prominent by placing them first, out of alphabetical order; additional emphasis seems out of line with normal practice for disambiguation pages
- Turning the items into sub-headings isn't a suitable way to apply visual emphasis
- I sympathize with your revert war at PSP. I'll have a look there and see if I can help out. Regards. —Michael Z. 2006-01-3 21:16 Z
- Guys, hopefully the page now should please you both? Thanks/wangi 21:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that it deviates somewhat from standard practices, but sometimes that's necessary. The end result should win out over style in most cases. Anyway, I'm not wedded to using header tags to set them off (they did make the listings a bit large). I'm personally fine with the way Wangi has restructured them; hopefully that'll satisfy those at Talk:PSP who were discontented by the redirect to the disambig at all. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 21:32, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- Guys, hopefully the page now should please you both? Thanks/wangi 21:27, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Payment Service Provider
[edit]Wangi, can I ask why you are moving Payment Service Provider out of the top list? A Payment Service Provider was, until Sony released their device, the most common meaning of a PSP. What I do not understand is why there are 2 different lists; surely there should either be one list, or two lists and a defined reason as to what goes in each list?
In the meantime I will await a reply to this before moving the item to the top list (again). Mkns 12:31, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Kenny, in the first instance I removed it since it was a duplicate entry. I moved it out of the "top two" since when googling the term it was greatly less used than the other two, compare:
- http://google.com/search?q=%22PlayStation+Portable%22 — 9,250,000 hits, and
- http://google.com/search?q=%22Paint+Shop+Pro%22 — 9,500,000 hits
- with:
- http://google.com/search?q=%22Payment+Service+Provider%22 — 233,000 hits
- Thanks/wangi 18:09, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, and check out http://google.com/search?q=PSP — I cannot find a reference to Payment Service Provider in the top 100. Thanks/wangi 18:45, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Even if you remove Sony Playstation and Paint Shop, it's still hard to find that one: PSP -playstation -sony -"paint shop". —Michael Z. 2006-01-14 18:53 Z
- Hi, yes I fully admit I had not noticed it was already in the list despite having looked down it to check first, I think I need glasses. As for hits in Google; is that really the way of deciding what goes in the first list and what goes in the second? For what it is worth, there is one piece of software called Paint Shop Pro and there are multiple businesses which are Payment Service Providers. And if you're going to argue the number of licences of Paint Shop Pro that are out there, compare it to the number of txns processed by Payment Service Providers. Hold on though - these comparisons are about as valid as how many hits on Google each get. What's more, if Google lists something over 9 million times then I figure people will be able to find out plenty of information about it simply by searching... um... Google. One last point; Worldpay have around 20,000 merchants using their service, and they are owned by the fifth largest bank in the *world* - doesn't that mean that their business type should be listed as one of the most important types of PSP? Rant over. I'll leave it where it is, I have better things to do than to attempt to change bizarre decisions based on unwritten rules. Mkns 20:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- I understand the frustration Kenny, it just we need to take some independent view on this - to me PSP always means Paintshop Pro, to most folk under 30 it'll no doubt be the Playstation... Remember though that this is just a disambiguation page - it's not an article, so as long as someone who types in PSP meaning Payment Service Provider get this page and then sees the link to the real article than it's doing its job. Thanks/wangi 20:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Mkns 21:11, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- I understand the frustration Kenny, it just we need to take some independent view on this - to me PSP always means Paintshop Pro, to most folk under 30 it'll no doubt be the Playstation... Remember though that this is just a disambiguation page - it's not an article, so as long as someone who types in PSP meaning Payment Service Provider get this page and then sees the link to the real article than it's doing its job. Thanks/wangi 20:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, yes I fully admit I had not noticed it was already in the list despite having looked down it to check first, I think I need glasses. As for hits in Google; is that really the way of deciding what goes in the first list and what goes in the second? For what it is worth, there is one piece of software called Paint Shop Pro and there are multiple businesses which are Payment Service Providers. And if you're going to argue the number of licences of Paint Shop Pro that are out there, compare it to the number of txns processed by Payment Service Providers. Hold on though - these comparisons are about as valid as how many hits on Google each get. What's more, if Google lists something over 9 million times then I figure people will be able to find out plenty of information about it simply by searching... um... Google. One last point; Worldpay have around 20,000 merchants using their service, and they are owned by the fifth largest bank in the *world* - doesn't that mean that their business type should be listed as one of the most important types of PSP? Rant over. I'll leave it where it is, I have better things to do than to attempt to change bizarre decisions based on unwritten rules. Mkns 20:34, 14 January 2006 (UTC)