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The Civil War Was All About Slavery

Just like World War II was not about Anti-Semitism, or the Iraq War being fought to 'free' the Iraqis from Saddam Hussein. Wars are usually fought for economic dominance. Just because Beauregard fought for the south, does not necessarily make him a bigot or in favor of slavery. What reasons he chose to fight for the Confederacy are not exactly clear in this article, the truth may be a little more complicated than you may understand.(TAGE)

Your condescension is not appreciated, for reasons a little more complicated than you may understand. Also, others may oppose your opinion on their own grounds of historical knowledge. Beauregard came from a slave-owning family. His financial privilege was derived from slave ownership. Yet there is NO MENTION IN THE ARTICLE that the plantation where he lived was staffed with slaves.

"P. G. T. Beauregard: Napoleon in Gray - Page 3 - Google Books Result

https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0807119741

T. Harry Williams - 1995 - ‎History

"Pierre Gustave Toutant-Beauregard. ... Pierre played with slave boys his own age and as a baby was suckled by a Dominican slave woman."

--cat yronwode (not logged in) 75.101.104.17 (talk) 17:06, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Maybe someone was taught "alternate history" in whatever school they attended (historical revisionism is a thing, http://www.salon.com/2013/03/16/the_south_still_lies_about_the_civil_war/), but the Mississippi Declaration of Causes makes it pretty clear. https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

''In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world.''

Now, what's this silliness about it not being about slavery? Morty C-137 (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

POV

Can the people that are calling Beauregard a "bigot" and a "hippocrite" perhaps get a life (and a history lesson). This is a professional article not a blog so keep your opinions to yourself, nobody wants to hear your ranting. But you do have a right to have an opinion just try to be civil about it ok?

P.S. I'm a decendent of the so called "bigot" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.221.246.75 (talk) 01:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere (will try to find it) that his first language was French; he didn't speak English until in his teens. Is that correct? Things were much more regional in those days...By the way, I think he is underappreciated today - best I can tell he never lost any battles...Engr105th (talk) 07:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I bet his first language was probably French because his name is a French name. So that one is probably correct.(Apocalyptica1234 (talk) 23:10, 12 April 2016 (UTC))

Best I can tell, you haven't read Battle of Shiloh. :-) Although I agree with you that he was underappreciated, he actually fought a lot fewer battles than other generals of his rank [other than Cooper]. Hal Jespersen (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

DOH ! Yeah, Shiloh...you got me - I forgot that one. (but, I think he shared command w/ Johnston..?)...Anyway, PGTB coulda/shoulda been used more than he was. His work in Va showed his talent. Engr105th (talk) 23:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)