Talk:Oxford Brookes University
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New or Public
[edit]For the fifth time someone (i.e. User:Bluecrime) has changed the university description from new university to public university. It is definitely a new university, formed in 1992, and not a 'public university' in any meaningful way. It looks suspiciously like someone is trying to disguise the univerity's past life as a polytechnic (again). I've reverted the edit again and left a message on Bluecrime's Talk page. Sionk (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
- This now seems to be the subject of a growing edit war between User:Tha Lin Htet and User:82.16.133.153 over the term 'public research university' in the lead. User:82.16.133.153 correctly referred to this note on the talk page for why it should be understood as a 'new university'. Can we discuss this here? Extua (talk) 09:49, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oxford Brookes University, although it used to be a Polytechnic in the past, became a university due to Further and Higher Education Act 1992, which turned all polytechnics in the United Kingdom into universities, giving them degree awarding powers. Oxford Brookes is not a private university; it is a public university, given permission by the UK government to award degrees. Also since becoming a university, Brookes has conducted research in many areas, and their research quality is reflected in REF and QS World University Rankings, where it is currently ranked 383rd, with multiple subjects in the top 100. Also, similar universities, such as University of the West of England, Bristol and Nottingham Trent University are called public research universities. Thus, I don't see any reason Brookes should not be called public research university. Tha Lin Htet (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- The term 'new university' describes that Oxford Brookes is as you state; it was a polytechnic and was granted university status in 1992. This is what the term 'new university' in the UK is understood to mean. This description follows the convention of universities being known as 'ancient university', 'red brick university', 'glass plate university' and so forth, depending on the era of their founding. It is correct for Oxford Brookes to be described as a 'new university', alongside other post-1992 universities. 82.17.70.68 (talk) 01:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- It is stated very clearly in multiple ways that Oxford Brookes is a post-1992 university, such as Oxford Polytechnic, its timeline, becoming a university in 1992. Thus, I do not think it is necessary to further state that it is a 'new university'. It is better to call it a public research university, which is how Nottingham Trent and UWE Bristol are also classified as. And I've rewritten the summary in a different way which will enable the reader to clearly see that Oxford Brookes is a post-1992 university. Tha Lin Htet (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable, with just a minor modification to reflect that there isn't really any ambiguity in Oxford Brookes classification as a new university. Also "played a major role in" seems more appropriate than "was a major player in". 82.17.70.68 (talk) 23:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- It is stated very clearly in multiple ways that Oxford Brookes is a post-1992 university, such as Oxford Polytechnic, its timeline, becoming a university in 1992. Thus, I do not think it is necessary to further state that it is a 'new university'. It is better to call it a public research university, which is how Nottingham Trent and UWE Bristol are also classified as. And I've rewritten the summary in a different way which will enable the reader to clearly see that Oxford Brookes is a post-1992 university. Tha Lin Htet (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
- The term 'new university' describes that Oxford Brookes is as you state; it was a polytechnic and was granted university status in 1992. This is what the term 'new university' in the UK is understood to mean. This description follows the convention of universities being known as 'ancient university', 'red brick university', 'glass plate university' and so forth, depending on the era of their founding. It is correct for Oxford Brookes to be described as a 'new university', alongside other post-1992 universities. 82.17.70.68 (talk) 01:31, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oxford Brookes University, although it used to be a Polytechnic in the past, became a university due to Further and Higher Education Act 1992, which turned all polytechnics in the United Kingdom into universities, giving them degree awarding powers. Oxford Brookes is not a private university; it is a public university, given permission by the UK government to award degrees. Also since becoming a university, Brookes has conducted research in many areas, and their research quality is reflected in REF and QS World University Rankings, where it is currently ranked 383rd, with multiple subjects in the top 100. Also, similar universities, such as University of the West of England, Bristol and Nottingham Trent University are called public research universities. Thus, I don't see any reason Brookes should not be called public research university. Tha Lin Htet (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Functional Food Centre at Oxford Brookes University
[edit]Center is not notable enough for a separate article DGG ( talk ) 04:16, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree, not enough references and I've never heard of it, though keep the separate article on the School of Architecture because it's been around for much longer and has a history of its own. Extua (talk) 16:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - The article in itself is notable, at least in my opinion. Independent source 1, 2, 3, etc. There are several third party sites, articles, etc mentioning this centre which makes it notable. Most things in this article are referenced; this can only be improved on and expanded/explored further. If you insist on merging it, then it should be merged with Oxford Brookes Uniersity Faculty of Humanities and Social Sciences after it is created and expanded. Merging with the main article doesn't really make sense considering this fits better in with the respective sub-topic. Chris ☮(Talk) 08:49, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- Oppose - I think it's pretty obvious after my rewrite that the center is notable. This discussion was on hold while the AfD was debated, but now it should be closed. RockMagnetist(talk) 20:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Expanding of Faculties
[edit]As of now the university has School of Archutecture, University Boat Club and Functional Food Centre and feel expansion is needed on the faculties i.e. Audiology, Biology, Biomedical Science, Optometry, Pharmacy, Psychology for the Faculty of Health — Preceding unsigned comment added by William77 (talk • contribs) 23:46, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Disambiguation with Oxford University
[edit]Does the connection or otherwise with Oxford University need to be stated?Bogger (talk) 08:19, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- As the person who has reverted a hatnote being added for this, my view is no. Oxford University is one of the most famous universities in the world, if a reader is searching for it then I doubt they will type 'Oxford Brookes University'. Brookes has no connection with the much older Oxford University, except being in the same city. Aloneinthewild (talk) 23:03, 24 January 2018 (UTC)