Talk:Owen D. Young/Archive 1

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Just a note that the Library of Congress has a ton of quality images of Young. Opencooper (talk) 04:12, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

A Critic of the Owen D. Young Page

The Wikipedia article on Owen D. Young is mostly credible, as the information was generally accurate. It gives general overview of his career and education. It also touches on his immediate family. That being said, it is only an overview, only three sections and each if these sections are only two or three paragraphs long, or consists of bullet points. The general organization also leaves a bit to be desired, though it is hard to tell with so little information. It is very obvious that the majority of the information came from internet encyclopedias that while perfectly correct, is also incredible concise. One finds that a larger source of information such as Owen D. Young and American Enterprise, by Josephine Case.

There is not too much to say about how these two sources compare, as they do not. The Wikipedia article is almost a stub, and the book is an incredible detailed 793 page biography with the general format written as though it as a story. The Wikipedia article pays absolutely no mind to his childhood, as if he was born one day and stopped existing until he graduated St. Lawrence University. It does not touch on the fact that he was an only child, as his parents lost his brother before he was born. Or that he was the only male of his family not to be given a biblical name. The fact that his family consisted of farmers only is brought up by the fact that he eventually retires to one.

Case talks about Manzo McEwan, the teacher who was responsible for Young going to the academy in East Springfield, as there were very few secondary education opportunities near Vans Hornesville, where he grew up. He was very much needed on the farm, but his parents allowed him to go to The Clinton Liberal Institute at Fort Plains in any case, and they did not regret it. To be honest, despite a section being called ‘Young and Education”, it is merely an extension of the first section, which was simply labeled “Biography”.

The Wikipedia article briefly reference his time as a lawyer, and given how carelessly it is glossed over, if it were not for the fact that it was explicitly stated, on would not have realized it was his career for nearly ten years. To be sure, it does not mention Young’s time in school either. It was at this school, as Case tells the tale, that he met his future wife, though they did not marry until he graduated. They shared something of an enjoyment for saltwater, Young, predominantly for fishing.

The main point of criticism of the Wikipedia article is its length. It is an about two page summary of a successful man’s rather eventful life. The share amount of the biography is a bit mind numbing, and must once again emphasize how vastly superior Case’s coverage of Young’s life is to a ten paragraph article that barely covers the basics. Also, what little there is written is rather poorly organized, everything being crammed together as there is not enough information to allow for individual sections. The article basically only focuses on his political career, with no motivations and very little information about his actual life. Basically, the article needs significantly more information about what Owen Young was doing when he was not changing American enterprise as the world new it then. One would need to have a lot of time on their hand, however, this author does not have any nor the inclination. Looking back, much of this information was not readily available, of entirely relevant to the structure of the Wikipedia page. If minute details of the life of Owen D. Young in better context are something that interest you, I would again suggest Owen D. Young and American Enterprise, by Josephine Case.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by CE-Mor (talk • contribs) 22:22, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

If you don't like the length of the article, feel free to expand it yourself. Just remember, it is an encyclopedia article, not a full biography, which is what Case's book is. Your comment reads like an advertisement for Case's book, which is not an appropriate use of Wikipedia. KitHutch (talk) 14:08, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Quick clarification: Young did not attend the Clinton Liberal Institute; it was too far and too expensive. bd2412 T 02:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)