Talk:Outlaw Star/GA1
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Reviewer: Piotrus (talk · contribs) 02:33, 29 October 2011 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
- Seems good to this ESL.
- B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
- The article does not adhere to WP:LEAD, although only slightly - the censorship is mentioned in the lead, but not in the body (caption does not count, as captions should not contain new information). If the mentioned Arashon desert in China is ficitonal, it should be said so. The article does well with linking important terms, but seems to forget about WP:RED; this is in particular visible when most of the Japanese creators are unlinked (Kenzoh Tomita, etc.). Uchuu Eiyuu Monogatari is probably notable, too. Has the writer checked the Japanese wikipedia to see if those topics have entries that could be translated and stubbed (Google Translate is our friend...)? Also, any reason why the cat-like does not link to catgirl? Shouldn't the section entitled CDs be renamed to Music?
- Comment: I've noted the Arashon desert as fictional; red-linked the names with intent to stub; and added the catgirl wiki. I've left the CDs subsection as-is because the drama CDs are not music. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the censorship not being mentioned in the body, as most of the first paragraph of the Anime subsection of media talks about the show's censorship in North America. ~ Hibana (talk) 15:10, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- What I mean is that the word censorship can be controversial, and the two sentences than mention it (in the lead and in the caption) do not have a reference. If one of your other references does use the term, just add it to the anime para and all will be fine. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:34, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- I've linked to all extant Japanese Wikipedia articles on the people and Uchuu Eiyuu Monogatari per H:ILL and WP:REDDEAL - hopefully this will help the stubbing process. --Malkinann (talk) 04:07, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
- What I mean is that the word censorship can be controversial, and the two sentences than mention it (in the lead and in the caption) do not have a reference. If one of your other references does use the term, just add it to the anime para and all will be fine. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 16:34, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I've noted the Arashon desert as fictional; red-linked the names with intent to stub; and added the catgirl wiki. I've left the CDs subsection as-is because the drama CDs are not music. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the censorship not being mentioned in the body, as most of the first paragraph of the Anime subsection of media talks about the show's censorship in North America. ~ Hibana (talk) 15:10, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- The article does not adhere to WP:LEAD, although only slightly - the censorship is mentioned in the lead, but not in the body (caption does not count, as captions should not contain new information). If the mentioned Arashon desert in China is ficitonal, it should be said so. The article does well with linking important terms, but seems to forget about WP:RED; this is in particular visible when most of the Japanese creators are unlinked (Kenzoh Tomita, etc.). Uchuu Eiyuu Monogatari is probably notable, too. Has the writer checked the Japanese wikipedia to see if those topics have entries that could be translated and stubbed (Google Translate is our friend...)? Also, any reason why the cat-like does not link to catgirl? Shouldn't the section entitled CDs be renamed to Music?
- A. Prose quality:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
- For example, the claim about censorship is not referenced. The end of the plot section is missing a reference. There are few instances of sentences missing a reference. Nothing major, but needs a fix.
- Comment: Again, I'm not sure what mean about the claim of censorship not being referenced. See the Anime subsection. ~ Hibana (talk) 15:10, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- For example, the claim about censorship is not referenced. The end of the plot section is missing a reference. There are few instances of sentences missing a reference. Nothing major, but needs a fix.
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- Seem as reliable as we can get for such popculture subject.
- C. No original research:
- I am hoping we can find a ref for the censorship. Other than than, all's fine.
- A. References to sources:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- Close, but not close enough. In the plot, the final para begins: "The incomplete Outlaw Star manga series and its concluded animated television series are paced differently than one another". Then it goes to describe the anime plot. What about the manga plot? The reader is left wanting... List of characters could be briefly summarized in its own section. Was the UK broadcast censored as well? Lastly, the article should mention the term space opera somewhere. While OS is a space western, those are a less known type of space opera, and I'd assume we should be able to find a reference for that.
- Comment: I've mentioned space opera as a genre and referenced it. ~ Hibana (talk) 15:10, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Close, but not close enough. In the plot, the final para begins: "The incomplete Outlaw Star manga series and its concluded animated television series are paced differently than one another". Then it goes to describe the anime plot. What about the manga plot? The reader is left wanting... List of characters could be briefly summarized in its own section. Was the UK broadcast censored as well? Lastly, the article should mention the term space opera somewhere. While OS is a space western, those are a less known type of space opera, and I'd assume we should be able to find a reference for that.
- B. Focused:
- Certainly.
- A. Major aspects:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- No bias detected.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- Check.
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Check.
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- Check.
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Few issues to fix, but seems passable, assuming some more work is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 02:54, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Issues seem to have been fixed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 15:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
- Few issues to fix, but seems passable, assuming some more work is done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 02:54, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
- Pass or Fail:
- Tone needs a bit of work also. A few things seem to state things a little off.Bread Ninja (talk) 20:42, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- I am sorry BN, but you need to be more specific. As nothing sounded strange to me, such general comments are not very actionable, either to me or the editors trying to improve the article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 15:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)