Talk:Outer Wilds/GA1

GA Review

Passed. ~ A412 ^talk! 20:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: A412 (talk · contribs) 21:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do this one. ~ A412 ^talk! 21:59, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Very close to just passing. While I've tried to highlight anything I think is optional, feel free to push back on any suggestions you don't feel improve the article. ~ A412 ^talk! 05:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

As of this revision.

Spotcheck

[1] - Checks out.
[6] - This appears to now be at [1]. I'm not sure what The Hatchling also has a signalscope, which can be used to scan for the source of signals including radio frequencies and other Hearthians playing music is referencing, as the article mentions neither radio frequencies nor music.

Swapped out for another source, and removed the specific signals- can't find an RS that explicitly says that you can hear both music and radio frequencies. --Pres N 16:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[11] - Checks out, but GA optional: would you mind citing page numbers? The source is 28 pages long. I think you're citing either page 14 or 17 the first time, and page 13 the second time, but it's long enough it's hard to be sure.

Done. --Pres N 16:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[16] - Checks out.
[21] - Checks out.
[26] - Checks out.
[31] - Checks out.
[36] - Checks out.
[41] - I don't have access to Edge December 2020 to check, but is "games of the generation" equivalent to "decade"? According to this random source, this was from 2013 and onwards.

Appears to be so- I'd kept that wording from prior to my overhaul. Added or "best games of the console generation". --Pres N 16:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[46] - Checks out.
[51] - Checks out.
[56] - Checks out.
[61] - Checks out.

RS

GA optional, but per WP:DUE, it'd be preferable to have something besides primary sources for some of the released products, in particular [22] for the standalone PS4 edition, [25][26] for the soundtrack release, and [30][31][32] for the expansion soundtrack are all primary.

Will look. --Pres N 16:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Everything else checks out.

CV

Earwig returns 32% to [2]. It's almost certainly copied without attribution from Wikipedia though. First archive is December 2022, and with the wording from the lead circa mid 2022.

Yeah, wow, that's not an official site, looks like a print-on-demand thing generated from a template. They definitely lifted from WP. I guess Mobius Digital doesn't go aggressively looking to sue copyright infringers. --Pres N 16:33, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing else concerning.

OR

No uncited content besides plot, which is okay.

Images

Infobox: checks out.
Gameplay: I don't love relying on the provenance of an image from a medium blog, but I think it's fine.

Yeah, unfortunately none of the press pack screenshots had the spacesuit UI, which I thought was important to include. --Pres N 16:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concept art: checks out.

Lead

First paragraph
- Consider linking planetary system for solar system, and I wonder if that's the more accurate term to avoid confusion with the Solar System.
  - Done (and changed all other instances of "solar system"
Second paragraph
- won the the Excellence in Design -> won the Excellence in Design
  - Done
Third paragraph
- An expansion which explores further themes within the same game world and mechanics - Unclear grouping of and mechanics, did you mean that the expansion explores further mechanics, or that it explores further themes within the same mechanics?
  - Scrapped and rewrote
- and won and was nominated for multiple categories at award shows - awkward. I think and was nominated for and won is the more natural ordering. Alternatively, it might be less important that it was also nominated for other awards, and we can collapse this sentence to and won in multiple categories at award shows, including the game of the year award at the 16th British Academy Games Awards.
  - Done

Infobox
- Pet peeve: Avimaan Syam and Sarah Scialli, as well as the game being in Unity, are currently mentioned in the infobox only.
  - Removed

Gameplay

First paragraph
- Same planetary system comment from lead.
  - Done
- A downloadable content expansion to the game, Echoes of the Eye, adds additional locations and mysteries to the game. - I think it's implicit that the DLC is for the game, and we can deduplicate the game by going with A downloadable content expansion, Echoes of the Eye, adds additional locations and mysteries to the game.
  - Done
Third paragraph
- an exaggerated system Newtonian physics -> an exaggerated system of Newtonian physics
  - Done
Fourth paragraph
- that the player has found so far while playing the game - I think while playing the game is implicit and can go.
  - Done
- dialoge -> dialog or dialogue
  - Done --Pres N 20:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plot

First paragraph
- Consider linking black hole and comet.
  - Done
Fourth paragraph
- Refers to the station as the Sun Station for the first time; I think it'd be better to introduce it by that name in the previous paragraph.
  - Done
- Heat death of the universe was a fairly surprising link target for end of the universe, ultimate fate of the universe may be more natural, or just don't link it.
  - Unlinked
Fifth paragraph
- "the Stranger" looks extremely weird, would the "Stranger" or just the Stranger unquoted be better?
  - Unquoted
Seventh paragraph
- Consider linking telepathy for telepathic.
  - Done

Development

Consider titling the section Development and release
- Done
Third paragraph
- as well as honorable mention - there seems to be a word missing before honorable mention, although I can't find what fits.
  - reworded
- Optional comment: I clicked through to Fig and there's both more information on the Outer Wilds campaign there we could probably integrate, as well as a source that contradicts the $100,000 number, with [3] giving $125,000.
  - Done
Fourth paragraph
- was pushed out from 2016 to launching in 2018 - bit awkward as the "development timeline" doesn't have a year per se, suggestion: was pushed out, delaying the planned launch from 2016 to 2018
  - Done
- Outer Wilds was released on PC and Xbox One on May 28, 2019 - Infobox gives May 29, 2019 for Xbox One. Which is correct?
  - Confusingly, some sources say the 29th or 30th was the planned date, but Mobius says they both launched on the 28th and that would be the normal practice for a publisher like Annapurna so I'll stick with that in prose and infobox.
Fifth paragraph
- player-character - Consistently hyphenate or consistently don't hyphenate
  - Done
- not find shortcuts they would see later - something feels off about the tense of this phrase, but I don't have a specific suggestion.
  - Reworded
Sixth paragraph
- she used strongly defined personalities having a conversation - used feels like the wrong verb. Suggestion: she wrote conversations between strongly defined personalities
  - Done
- "conversation" - does this need to be quoted in its second appearance?
  - Done
Eighth paragraph
- eye of the universe - I think this was capitalized earlier
  - Done
- Consider linking horror game
  - Done
Ninth paragraph
- The elements of "breaking" the simulation were added to replace the three locks on the Prisoner's cage - Have these locks been previously introduced?
  - Plot says "unlock the vault's three seals and open it"; changed here to also be seals
Tenth paragraph
- Consider linking Indigenous peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast for Pacific Northwest Native American instead of Pacific Northwest
  - Done
- supported by the game is probably implicit
  - Done

Reception

Video game reviews template
- Per the template documentation, star ratings should be converted to numerical ones.
  - Done
First paragraph
- It was ranked as one of the top 30 games of 2019 by aggregated score for Windows, Xbox One, and PlayStation 4 - I'm unclear what this is referring to.
  - Reworded.
Second paragraph
- "pocket watch" - I think this doesn't need to be quoted.
  - Done
Fifth paragraph
- Gamespot, in turn - I think in turn implies a causal connection between this review and the previous one.
  - Done
Sixth paragraph
- After release, it was nominated for multiple categories at several awards - either for several awards or at several award shows
  - Done. --Pres N 17:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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