Talk:Oregon Health Plan
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A source for expansion
[edit]- Lydgate, Chris. "In sickness and in health". Willamette Week 25 Years retrospective.
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[edit]Needs WP:LEAD work and some expansion of the sub-sections to get to B class. Aboutmovies (talk) 12:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Oregon Health Plan Suggesting Assisted Suicide
[edit]The state or Oregon offering to poison its citizens through its health care plan is obviously noteworthy. This should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ted8625 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Ted, please note that I added a new section to the article here to include the Barbara Wagner chemotherapy denial controversy that you brought up, so your addition was not in vain. I added more citations to prove the Wagner story is both true and notable, and did my best to use copious sourcing and NPOV so the new text is unlikely to be challenged or removed. Thank you for bringing the story to my attention, and please keep contributing. NickDupree (talk) 18:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the work Nick. Nick and Ted, the info was not removed because it was not true or notable, but because the way it was stated showed a slight POV and the sentence, "The Oregon Health Plan sent a letter to senior citizen Barbara Wagener saying that it would not cover the cost of the lung cancer drugs her doctor prescribed, but that it would pay for her doctor-assisted suicide," doesn't give enough information for the reader. Ted, you obviously feel strongly about this issue, but we have to state the facts as cited in reliable neutral sources, and let the reader draw his or her own conclusions. I think you will find those of us who watch this article acting in good faith, while at the same time, doing our best to up hold Wikipedia policy and guidelines. We don't have any desire to censor, challenge or remove controversial material merely because it is controversial. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 19:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed Kat. The problem with Ted's original edit wasn't the controversial topic, or disagreement from editors, it was that Ted didn't include the multiple sources required by Wikipedia's notability inclusion criteria. His one source from Catholic News Agency wasn't enough to back it up. But because the Wagner story is becoming so prominent in the health care debate, I believe it important to include. So, in my edit, I did my best to vigorously source every claim, even linking to Oregon Health Plan policies to substantiate the central claim that they will only cover comfort measures and assisted suicide for some terminal patients. I also included Ted's original Catholic News Agency source, to preserve his contribution. NickDupree (talk) 21:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, glad we're all on the same page here, so to speak. P.S. It's "Katr" (rhymes with "Cater"), not "Kat", which irritates me for some reason. Keep up the good work. Katr67 (talk) 21:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed Kat. The problem with Ted's original edit wasn't the controversial topic, or disagreement from editors, it was that Ted didn't include the multiple sources required by Wikipedia's notability inclusion criteria. His one source from Catholic News Agency wasn't enough to back it up. But because the Wagner story is becoming so prominent in the health care debate, I believe it important to include. So, in my edit, I did my best to vigorously source every claim, even linking to Oregon Health Plan policies to substantiate the central claim that they will only cover comfort measures and assisted suicide for some terminal patients. I also included Ted's original Catholic News Agency source, to preserve his contribution. NickDupree (talk) 21:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the work Nick. Nick and Ted, the info was not removed because it was not true or notable, but because the way it was stated showed a slight POV and the sentence, "The Oregon Health Plan sent a letter to senior citizen Barbara Wagener saying that it would not cover the cost of the lung cancer drugs her doctor prescribed, but that it would pay for her doctor-assisted suicide," doesn't give enough information for the reader. Ted, you obviously feel strongly about this issue, but we have to state the facts as cited in reliable neutral sources, and let the reader draw his or her own conclusions. I think you will find those of us who watch this article acting in good faith, while at the same time, doing our best to up hold Wikipedia policy and guidelines. We don't have any desire to censor, challenge or remove controversial material merely because it is controversial. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 19:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)