Talk:Order of the Pug

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Is this a joke?

This article is extremely dubious. Don't get me wrong, if it's a joke, it's a good one, but it can't masquerade as a real article. Either state that it's satirical or include some sources to show it's legit. The Cap'n (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article may be lacking in inline citations, but it's fairly well-sourced... which you would have noticed if you had taken five seconds before exposing us all to your unwarranted skepticism; I'm going to recommend to you exactly what I used to recommend to my students: Stop looking at all history through the lenses of modernity and the western world. Just because the pug is considered something of a show dog in post-Victorian western countries doesn't mean that it was in the eighteenth century; the breed was originally created as companions to the Imperial houses of China (to the point that one second-century emperor actually gave them their own armed escorts), so being considered something of a noble animal to the Freemasons is hardly surprising to anyone with a sense of historical perspective. Perhaps you consider sources in any language other than English illegitimate? IcarusPhoenix (talk) 16:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]