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Reviewer: Enwebb (talk · contribs) 20:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
I'll take this one that has been languishing in the queue for a while. Enwebb (talk) 20:55, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- I kinda forgot about this nomination, it's been so long User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Enwebb: You still here or are you gone on holiday? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:06, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Dunkleosteus77, things have gotten fairly busy for me, but I haven't forgotten this review and hope to come back to it by the end of the week. Happy holidays to you if you're celebrating anything! Enwebb (talk) 15:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Enwebb: You still here or are you gone on holiday? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:06, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
- Why did von Meyer propose two different subgenera in the same publication? This seems somewhat unusual
- He was unsure, which makes sense considering all he had was a partial mandible User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Shouldn't authority be in parentheses, given that the current combination is not the first combination? This goes for all the synonyms too except Orca meyeri
- I'm confused, but I put parentheses on all the authorities in the taxobox User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- For zoological author citation, parentheses go around all author citations that are not the original combination. Since the authority is given as Brandt 1873 where he described it as Orca meyeri, all other combinations should have parentheses.
- I'm confused, but I put parentheses on all the authorities in the taxobox User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Gloss explanation of "subjective synonym"
- That was kinda the point of "and there is room for debate on the question of its validity" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
"...and there is room for debate on the question of its validity" unclear "its" here in light of the next sentence. The taxon's, O. meyeri, or D. acutidens?
- I feel like I was following along in the taxonomy section okay until the last sentence. How could Abel consider one name to be synonymous with Physeterula dubusi but not the other? He considered them different taxa?
- He doesn't actually explain, he makes a bulleted list of synonyms, writing "Delphinus acutidens" and "?Orcinus Meyeri" User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
For the description section, perhaps a table would be nice to better compare O. meyeri with modern killer whales. It's a bit hard to keep it straight in the prose.
- It's known from only a partial mandible, there are total of 3 comparable things User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Enwebb (talk) 16:23, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- It's known from only a partial mandible, there are total of 3 comparable things User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:05, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- The lead is pretty short. I think having at least a sentence for each section of the article is a good rule of thumb.
- The article's less than 9,000 characters so the lead seems like the right size. All sections are mentioned User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 17:19, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Not sure how good your German is, but there's a source you haven't cited Palaeontographica Volume 7, 1869 and it has some plates!Plate 13, figures 1-10.
- I think all he's doing is listing other cetacean teeth from the same area, and redescribing the D. acutidens specimen User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 17:16, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- Humor me and add some images. Enwebb (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
What page are the images on? I see references to Fig. 3 to Fig 10 in-text but I don't know where they are.User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:22, 30 December 2019 (UTC)- Okay I found it, done User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 21:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- Humor me and add some images. Enwebb (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
- I think all he's doing is listing other cetacean teeth from the same area, and redescribing the D. acutidens specimen User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 17:16, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Can you be more descriptive with "fishing up the food chain"?
"...like many other predatory marine lineages" are you talking about all predatory marine life or just Cetacea?
- all predatory marine life User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
"...which was a coastal area with strong tidal currents" was or is?
- you mean the Alps? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oops, Alpine was a key word to miss. Enwebb (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- you mean the Alps? User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 04:51, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Given the general scarcity of information about this taxon, I think this article is broad in its coverage. Well written, free of copyvio, illustrated, neutral, and stable. Well done. Enwebb (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2020 (UTC)