Talk:Orangutan–human last common ancestor

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Merge discussion

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Merge opened by @Dbachmann:

Oppose though the article is extremely poorly written, it's a notable topic and part of a series of ape/human common ancestors (human–chimpanzee last common ancestor, human–gorilla last common ancestor, and human–gibbon last common ancestor) User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk 16:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This is a harder area to provide sources to but follows a good progression with the other three articles. It can be improved though I agree. The subject is entirely different than the Hom article and that clad in this article is a good place to keep up with future developments that might be confirmed by secondary sources.--Akrasia25 (talk) 17:10, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I see the reason for the lack of references. I added this secondary reference and along the way it was deleted accidentally or intentionally (vandalism?). I can start to add it back.--Akrasia25 (talk) 17:19, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The orangutan–human last common ancestor was tailless, and had a broad flat rib cage. The orangutan–human last common ancestor had a larger body size, larger brain, and in females, the canine teeth had started to shrink like their descendants.^[1]^: 201  Great apes have sweat glands in their armpit versus in their chest like lesser monkeys^[1]^: 195

- This is definitely NOT a creationist source! It is my go to book on refuting creationist nonsense. It you had read the arguments for those references you would see the connections to the missing link and the reason for this article. The bibliography alone is worth the price of the book. I am reverting back to that version as there are too many changes to add these references back in.--Akrasia25 (talk) 17:28, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ ^a ^b Kane, Jonathan; Willoughby, Emily; Michael Keesey, T. (2016-12-31). God's Word or Human Reason?: An Inside Perspective on Creationism. ISBN 9781629013725.

Dryopithecini

I moved hidden text here to better understand the editor's point.

The study of Dryopithecini as an outgroup to Hominidae suggests a date earlier than 8 million years ago for the  Homininae-Ponginae split.

"why 8 mya, when Dryopithecini are older than 12 mya?"

--Akrasia25 (talk) 17:51, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[Human_Reason-1] Kane, Jonathan; Willoughby, Emily; Michael Keesey, T. (2016-12-31). God's Word or Human Reason?: An Inside Perspective on Creationism. ISBN 9781629013725.

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