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Africa

I notice Africa is left out of this article, which is surprising because it contains some of the best and most recent examples.

[1] Vansina describes African societies as 'oral civilisations' as opposed to 'literate civilisations'. The paragraph in the lead that labels oral history as primitive is a clear example of academic racism in my view.
[2] General History of Africa: Voume 1, chapter 2: The place of history in African society
Also see Griot. In West Africa their position was hereditary and one of their roles was to memorise their peoples' history and serve as an advisor in the king's court, where they would be expected to turn their knowledge into lessons. There are more examples across the continent, especially in the Great Lakes shown in the Empire of Kitara article.

I'm happy to add a section for Africa (perhaps have it most prominent?) however I'm not knowledgeable about this and I don't want to mess around this article without speaking to others first. If I send a few more sources, would someone else be willing to write it? If not I'm happy to write a draft and then put it here for approval.

@Rjensen, Born digital 2, Lc.umd, Mreid123, Dklionsky, Espoo, and Morskyjezek: Alexanderkowal (talk) 18:33, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can't write the section but i have some suggestions: 1) Gunner, Liz. "Africa and orality." The Cambridge history of African and Caribbean literature 1 (2004): 1-18. online at https://www.academia.edu/download/49907532/Africa_and_Orality_in_Irele_and_Gikandi_eds_2003.pdf 2) Vansina, Jan. "Once upon a time: Oral traditions as history in Africa." Daedalus (1971): 442-468. online at https://www.jstor.org/stable/20024011 (I can email a copy) 3) Irwin, Paul. Liptako speaks: History from oral tradition in Africa. Princeton University Press, 2014. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Liptako_Speaks/Pcv_AwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=oral+history+africa&pg=PP1&printsec=frontcover and 4) Field, Sean. Oral history, community, and displacement: Imagining memories in post-apartheid South Africa. Springer, 2012. review of important book by Sean Field at https://core.ac.uk/reader/157781040 --good luck! Rjensen (talk) 23:36, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rjensen Thank you, I'll start working on it.

Is the introduction correct? Doesn't the title better match "Oral historiography", the study of oral history, rather than "Oral history", the practice of retaining/preserving history orally?

This article appears to be about the academic discipline. Perhaps the issue is that oral history has obtained two meanings. I do think it is worth keeping this article about the academic discipline, which I can add a section summarising 'General History of Africa: Volume 1, Oral tradition and its methodology' which is about the study of African oral history, however a new article should probably be created which focuses on oral history as the practice of preserving history orally (different to recording sound in modern times), which is a subset of oral tradition.

I do think the title of this article should be changed, however begrudgingly not if the subject of this article is only ever referred to as oral history. Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps changing the title to "Oral history (recordings)" supposedly once the other article is completed? Alexanderkowal (talk) 20:35, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History

How apartheid effect people live and how people respond 41.114.160.184 (talk) 12:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WikiProject Oral tradition

Would people be interested in joining a wikiproject on improving and creating articles about oral tradition? Wikipedia's coverage on this appears to be very poor Kowal2701 (talk) 19:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]