Talk:Option Paralysis

Label?

It was my understanding that The Dillinger Escape Plan created their own record label, as a sub-label of Season of Mist, called Phonogetic Records.[1][2][3][4] The band also later created what they called a "creative umbrella" named Party Smasher Inc., but the band never referred to it as a label. Just a method of distribution.[5][6][7] However, all recent sources for Option Paralysis no longer mention Phonogetic, only Party Smasher. Did Phonogetic become Party Smasher? Are these still two different things? I have removed Party Smasher from this page a few times, but all of the new sources I have seen lately suggest that this is in fact their label. Fezmar9 (talk) 18:28, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Party Smasher Inc. is indeed their own LABEL. Ben Weinman announced it on his Twitter account.[8]

On their MySpace page they announced the name.[9]

ALSO....we have announced that we are creating an umbrella known as PARTY SMASHER INC. that we will be putting out all of our future endeavors under. Our records, our shirts, our whatever the fucks....all of it is from now on coming out under that moniker.

The Phonogetic deal never existed, nor was it ever confirmed by any DEP member. A clear case of one (non)journalist copy and pasting from another without taking an effort to clarify the information.
Ben Weinman denounced it publicly.[10]

Now you can stop deleting the "Party Smasher Inc." info.

I hope I could help. Milklizard (talk) 21:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up! Fezmar9 (talk) 21:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Canada delay

The album's release was delayed by two weeks in Canada, and when it finally was released it included a note about the seal hunt from the band in conjunction with PETA. Anyone know if these two facts are related? If so, it should be worked into the article.

I asked both at a local HMV here in Ottawa and another smaller independent store and both said that it was delayed due to "barcode problems" whatever that means (printed wrong maybe, wrong numbers maybe). I don't know if they delay is any way related to the seal hunt stuff, but my copy had that leaflet in it as well. Can anyone tell us whether the US distributed ones have it as well? Ibanez Guy (talk) 17:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I live in the US and my copy had a PETA leaflet in it. But my copy was also pre-ordered through Season of Mist online. Not sure if that makes a difference in what you are looking for. Fezmar9 (talk) 20:59, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Jeff Tuttle

On Ire Works, Ben Weinman wrote both the rhythm and lead guitar parts, and Jeff Tuttle was brought in to play these parts live in 2007. According to the source provided in the article, that was pretty much the plan for Option Paralysis, but the band wanted the backing vocal parts on the album to actually be Tuttle so that it translated better to the live performance. The liner notes also state that Tuttle does not play guitar on this album. Would anyone be against moving Tuttle to an "Additional musicians" section within the "Personnel" next to Mike Garson? Because (a) Tuttle only provides backing vocals on only four songs and (b) it would be less tempting for IPs to ignore the source and list Tuttle as a guitarist on the album as well. Thoughts? Fezmar9 (talk) 15:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I would leave him as part of the main band credits because on the credits his name is formatted just like the rest of the band. Mike Garson is listed in a different colour font, and is not bolded like the 5 band members. They seem to mean that he is part of the bands, even if he didn't perform the guitar. (I am looking at the digipak version) Ibanez Guy (talk) 23:43, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

I too have the digipak. Even though he is formatted as a band member in the liner notes (or "flap" notes), his contributions to Option Paralysis are no different than that of Mike Garson. Below is a visual of what I am proposing. Fezmar9 (talk) 01:33, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Personnel section (current on left, proposal on right)

The Dillinger Escape Plan

• Greg Puciato – vocals
• Benjamin Weinman – lead guitars, piano
• Jeff Tuttle – backing vocals on "Good Neighbor", "Gold Teeth On A Bum", "Crystal Morning" and "Parasitic Twins"
• Liam Wilson – bass
• Billy Rymer – drums

Guest musicians

• Mike Garson – additional piano on "Widower" and "I Wouldn't If You Didn't"

Band

• Greg Puciato – vocals
• Benjamin Weinman – lead guitars, piano
• Liam Wilson – bass
• Billy Rymer – drums

Additional musicians

• Mike Garson – additional piano on "Widower" and "I Wouldn't If You Didn't"
• Jeff Tuttle – backing vocals on "Good Neighbor", "Gold Teeth On A Bum", "Crystal Morning" and "Parasitic Twins"

Digipack and option paralysis

The digipack cd package looks like it is constructed in way it resembles the phenomenon of option paralysis; there are a numerous ways to wrap the package back up.

Is this a nice detail to mention in the artwork section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.29.148 (talk) 12:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

That is a very interesting theory! But unfortunately it is exactly that, a theory. Wikipedia does not publish original research. All claims must be verifiable through reliable third-party websites. If you can find a review or something that makes a similar claim, then yeah, add it to the article! Fezmar9 (talk) 21:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation

"The inability to make a decision when presented with a wide range of choices." This is presumably the phenomenon from which the album in theis article takes its name, but there is no Wikipedia article about it or even a disambiguation page.

I don't know how to create such articles - sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cardinal 1962 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

References