Talk:Operation Wetback/Archive 1

Archive 1

Merger

Two titles for the same phenomenon. The official government title was "Operation Wetback", so Repatriation Movement should be moved here.--Rockero 18:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Merger

The Repatriation movement is the more name for this phenomenon. It wasn't limited to a single operation, it was in fact an entire movement known as part of the Whisper Campaigns ordered by the administration of President Herbert Hoover. Since it was indeed an entire movement any merging should be done so under the title Repatriation Movement so as not to limit the scope of information made available.--Joshua Urrutia Ricardez

Looks like you're right. These two deserve separate articles. Merger proposal withdrawn.--Rockero 19:15, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Bracero

Operation Wetback was in large part a result of the Bracero program which is not mentioned in this article, nor at this time, anywhere else on wikipedia.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.83.74.120 (talk • contribs)

Which, obviously, as you’ll note by the above blue link, is no longer true. GUIcentric 18:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

How do I unwikify the date?

I just added a reference for the New York Times quote in the article,but the date comes out as wikified in the reference section. I can't see anything in the source that is causing the date to be wikified. Does anybody know how to unwikify the date? --Ramsey2006 15:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio

I found and removed sentences taken directly from http://www.pbs.org/kpbs/theborder/history/timeline/20.html. Even though it's cited as a source, you can't use text from it directly without quoting it. Superm401 - Talk 12:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Civil rights violations - references

The references cited for the civil rights violations portion reference books that do not contain any information in the links to reference the section. I've not yet seen anyone use a book as a reference if there is at least not a portion of that book available in the link that shows the reference is in fact in the book. Further im not so sure a book in this area would even qualify as a reference. Any comments would be appreciated. Woods01 (talk) 18:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Those references are books. The citations link to the Google Books web pages for the books in. Both books are partially previewable online. I've added deep links to the specific pages cited. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 06:25, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Bibliography

Astor, Avi. ″Unauthorized Immigration, Securitization, and the Making of Operation Wetback.″ Latino Studies 7 (2009): 5-29.

Hernandez, Kelly L. ″The Crimes and Consequences of Illegal Immigration: A Cross Border Examination of Operation Wetback, 1943-1954.″ Western Historical Quarterly 37 (2006): 421-444.

Mize, David. Consuming Mexican Labor: From the Bracero Program to NAFTA. Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 2010. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matttbrown (talk • contribs) 19:22, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Matttbrown (talk) 22:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

"Mistreatment": Identity Politics and Tone Policing in Article?

Why is tone policing overflowing into an article concerning the actual title of the article and factual historical events? Wikipedia is a source for information not writing opinion pieces on your view of history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.52.40.163 (talk) 07:42, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Numbers

In "Past U.S. Mass Deportations Left Dark Mark," (Chicago Tribune, 2015.11.13, pp. 1 & 15) Kate Linthicum says "The Eisenhower administration initiative deported closer to 300,000 people, according to historians, and was accompanied by scores of deaths and shattered families" (p. 15). Do we have an authoritative source on our figures? She also cites Professor Mae Ngai (Columbia University) as saying that 88 people "died from heat exhaustion wile being deported" (ib.). Kdammers (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC) And I believe the Wik article on the Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower gives a figure of around 80,000, with a caution about claims of around a million.Kdammers (talk) 06:00, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

That depends on the definition of "authoritative". An "On the Issues" entry at the end of the Sources section includes a link to a page that lists 1.3 million as the deportation number claimed by the INS. Counting those who left under threat of deportation, an 'official' 2.1 million number is provided. These numbers are from FactCheck. (Interestingly, but outside the scope of this article, FactCheck also clarifies that 3.4 million were deported (or left under the threat thereof) during the Truman presidency, and that Truman said "Everyone suffers from the presence of these illegal immigrants in the community." —ADavidB 13:07, 16 November 2015 (UTC)