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A fact from Opal Lee appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 July 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Opal Lee is often referred to as the "grandmother of Juneteenth"?

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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 13:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Opal Lee is often referred to as the "Grandmother of Juneteenth"? Source: "Meet Opal Lee, the grandmother of Juneteenth"
- ALT1:... that when she was 89 years old, Opal Lee walked from Fort Worth, Texas to Washington, D.C. to urge that Juneteenth be made a federal holiday? Source: "In 2016, at the age of 89, she decided to walk from her home in Fort Worth to Washington, D.C., in an effort to get Juneteenth named a national holiday."

Reviewed: Robert Saunders Jr.

Created by History2049 (talk) and MelanieN (talk). Nominated by MelanieN (talk) at 16:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Epicgenius (talk) 22:10, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

I think this POTUS tweet would probably make a decent photo for the article.--Pharos (talk) 15:24, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Description in lead sentence

Should she be described as "an American retired teacher, counselor, and activist", as we originally had and now have again? Or should she be described as "an African-American retired teacher, counselor, and activist", as it was for a few days this week before being changed back? Both, of course, are accurate. Our guideline says "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability." Her being African-American does seem strongly related to her notability as an activist for Juneteenth. But a simple "American" is also perfectly descriptive of her. @Esmost, Icantthinkofanamexd, Esschumann, History14, History2049, and Electriclamb: Let's discuss it. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like the article saying "American" is the right approach and has been the approach for virtually all articles related to Black American activists. Even in articles in which ethnicity is highly relevant (such as with Kurds in Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and Syria and Catalans in Spain), the articles always list the ethnicity as secondary. However, it is important to note that Kurds and Catalans form a nation and have consistently lived in a "homeland," whereas all Black Americans and all Jews live in diaspora and have a "national character," but they are not a "nation." "African-American" is not appropriate at all. Esmost ^talk 20:37, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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