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Reviewer: Littlemixlove (talk · contribs) 11:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Infobox
- A border for the cover art is needed as well as alt text to describe it to visually impaired readers. See {{Infobox single}} and WP:ALT.
- Added alt. What's an 'A border' and how do I add it? :/ — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Already done. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Add "Border=yes" below the Alt. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Added alt. What's an 'A border' and how do I add it? :/ — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Multiple values in the format and writers sections should be separated using flatlists. Multiple values in the producer section should be separated using plainlists. See {{Infobox single}}
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Formats should be flatlisted. Producers should be plainlisted, not flatlisted. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- No label or recording information?
- I don't have its parent album and couldn't find a reputable source. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- But the release history and article states the song was released by Syco. So Syco could be added? Aren't 1D signed to Columbia in the US? Both labels can be added and plainlisted. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- I don't have its parent album and couldn't find a reputable source. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Both are added and flatlisted. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Lead
- "It was released in various countries" -> vague wording.
- Citing all the European countries the single was released in seems tedious to me. Better suggestions?
- It was released internationally could work? New Zealand is not located in Europe and the release history is not that complicated? — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- That is why I'm using various. It wasn't released internationally on 6 January.
- It was released internationally could work? New Zealand is not located in Europe and the release history is not that complicated? — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Citing all the European countries the single was released in seems tedious to me. Better suggestions?
- "The number has been certified" -> rather use "the song" or "One Thing".
- It's a synonym which prevents tedious prose. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with your argument, but "the number" can cause confusion for readers as this is a song article. Eventhough it is tedious, use "the song/track" or "One Thing" instead, "the number" is a rarely-used and old-fashioned word. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- To my knowledge it isn't. Featured article "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" uses the word. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with your argument, but "the number" can cause confusion for readers as this is a song article. Eventhough it is tedious, use "the song/track" or "One Thing" instead, "the number" is a rarely-used and old-fashioned word. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- It's a synonym which prevents tedious prose. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Add when the music video was released and the reception it received.
- Music videos are released around the time frame the single is released. Again, tedious. I only found one reviewer, so citing one reviewer's opinion seems redundant to me. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Okey dokey. If you want to make the article as brief as possible. It's your choice. I'm only trying to help ;) — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I'm aiming for. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Okey dokey. If you want to make the article as brief as possible. It's your choice. I'm only trying to help ;) — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Music videos are released around the time frame the single is released. Again, tedious. I only found one reviewer, so citing one reviewer's opinion seems redundant to me. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "televised programs" -> should be 'programmes' and some examples of which programmes are beneficial to this section.
- Fixed the spelling (thanks!). The lead summarises the article; such detail - I believe - is more for the live performances section.
- Background
- "all of which" -> redundant.
- No. It's a grammatically correct sentence if that's your reasoning.
- Examiner.com is a blacklisted source, unfortunately.
It's just an interview which Carl Falk even spoke of on his Twitter account. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, WP articles require referencing from reliable sources. Is there not another source you can use instead? — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- In this case, Examiner's reliability doesn't matter as it's an interview between Carl Falk, one of the song's composers, and Examiner. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, WP articles require referencing from reliable sources. Is there not another source you can use instead? — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Up All Night is overlinked
- Fixed. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "various European countries" -> vague wording.
- See above. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- See above. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- See above. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Linking "digital", "b-side" and "CD single" would be beneficial.
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "was confirmed by 25 January 2012" -> was confirmed on 25 January 2012
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "was chosen as second US single" -> was released as the second US single.
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Composition and critical response
- The two sections could be split with more detail? The song is notable enough to have more than only 7 reliable reviews?
- Surprisingly, to my knowledge, it isn't. I've searched. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- A music sample maybe?
- I wouldn't know how and I don't think it's beneficial. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "One Thing" is an upbeat, uptempo, pop rock number which is... -> "One Thing" is an uptempo pop rock song with a length of three minutes and ten seconds.
- Done.
- The comparisons to "What Makes You Beautiful" and "I Want It That Way" could be used as the last sentence of the Composition section as follows -> Musically, "One Thing" has been likened to "What Makes You Beautiful" and the Backstreet Boys' "I Want It That Way" (1999).
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "The" is used too much as an introduction to sentences.
- I've changed the layout. Better? — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "alongside the bridge, is backed by wordless chants" -> alongside the bridge, and is backed by wordless chants.
- Not done. The sentence doesn't end there. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I know, but the sentence does not make sence. Read through it again, maybe you can split it into separate sentences? — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Done. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Not done. The sentence doesn't end there. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "Its instrumentation includes" -> This sentence will fit better as the second sentence of this section.
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "Due to" is a word to avoid.
- Why? — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "number" -> song/track
- See above. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- See above. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- See above. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "Brian Mansfield from USA Today thought the song's..." -> felt that the song's
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "Lewis Corner from Digital Spy gave the song four out of five stars, complimented" -> replace "gave" with "awarded" and the sentence is very deconstructive and redundant, rather quote a sentence or two from the review.
- "while Entertainment Weekly writer" -> avoid the word "while" as much as possible.
- Why? There's, from my perspective, nothing wrong with using it. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "While" should only be used when emphasising that two events occur at the same time, or when emphasising contrast. It should not be used as an addictive link. See here. Both reviews are positive and there is not a contrast between the two reviewers opinions.
- Done. Thanks for the explanation. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- "While" should only be used when emphasising that two events occur at the same time, or when emphasising contrast. It should not be used as an addictive link. See here. Both reviews are positive and there is not a contrast between the two reviewers opinions.
- Why? There's, from my perspective, nothing wrong with using it. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Commercial performance
- "from the parent album" -> from its parent album.
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- "When "One Thing" and "What Makes You Beautiful" ..." -> One Direction became the second act of 2012 to have two singles simultaneously occupying the chart's top ten when "One Thing" was at number six and "What Makes You Beautiful" at number ten for the chart week ending 22 April 2012.
- Done — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Music video
- This section is extremely brief. More info to what happens in the video, its synopsis and reception?
- I've grown wary of overtly detailed synopses + the music video just features them lurking around London. Only found one review.
- A snapshot from the video maybe?
- That would be violating WP:NFCC#8. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Live performance
- Some more details or reviews about the performances?
I like it this way; short and concise. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- No Credits and personnel section?
- I don't have the album and couldn't find a reputable source. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Chart
- South Korea (Gaon) would look better
- I've removed the chart, since it didn't provide the info it's supposed to be giving.
- If you have a look at how it referenced in this article you could actually make use of it.
- I don't care for it. — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- If you have a look at how it referenced in this article you could actually make use of it.
- I've removed the chart, since it didn't provide the info it's supposed to be giving.
- References
- Digital Spy, Hearst Corporation, Music Week is overlinked.
- Fixed. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- The iTunes refs could have the country abbreviations in brackets so that all the references do not look the same.
- Why does that matter?
- A reader may wants to open a ref but when redirected to the refs section, every iTunes ref is titled the same - confusion. Just constructive criticism. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Why does that matter?
- Ref 15, 21, 24, 25, 46, 52 are Uncategorised redirects, archive it maybe?
- I never archive and consider it a hassle. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. But GA articles should be supported with working links and not uncategorised redirects. So if you want to make use of these links its best you archive them. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- I've checked those refs and they all work properly on my computer. :/ — Robin (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Ok. But GA articles should be supported with working links and not uncategorised redirects. So if you want to make use of these links its best you archive them. — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- I never archive and consider it a hassle. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Ref 10 needs a (subscription required) tag.
- Done. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm putting the article on hold! Good luck! :-) — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 13:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thorough review! I've answered all the queries. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delayed response! Hopefully I'll be able to pass the article after your next reply! Thanks again for the hard work on the article, even if it as brief as it is. :-) — LittleMixLove • these wings are made to fly! 11:36, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thorough review! I've answered all the queries. — Robin (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.