Talk:One Night Stand (Keri Hilson song)

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I am puzzled. Is this claimed to be a SINGLE based ONLY upon a music video?

Sorry, but I don't understand how this song is claimed to be a 'single'. I don't see a sales date independent of No Boys Allowed or a Radio add date mentioned. In discussions at WT:SONG (if I recall correctly), no one claims that a song is a "single" if ONLY a music video has been made (WITHOUT a sales date or radio date). PLEASE help me understand & thank you.—Iknow23 (talk) 10:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keri announced it was the third single from No Boys Allowed, the single cover and music video has been released and it has charted. Does it have to have an radio add date for it to actually be called a single? I thought these were enough to say it's a single. Ozurbanmusic (talk) 11:24, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I remember the song's add date showing up on AllAccess. Candy o32 01:26, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing mentioned here Ozurbanmusic (talk) 01:37, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songs can chart without needing to be a 'single'.

The problem with AllAccess is that it only shows 'Future' events, right? Once it has occurred there is no way to 'look back into the past'. An attempt could have been made to archive it when it did appear, but not all websites will allow outside archiving. I don't know if AllAccess allows it. So AllAccess can not be sourced for this. Hopefully some reliable site can be found to source a Radio add date, but afaik, no material currently exists in the article that consensus agrees for it to be a called a 'single'.—Iknow23 (talk) 02:57, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One Night Stand was only meant for urban radio, and FMQB does not record releases of urban records. I'll see if I can find out anything. Candy o32 13:08, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to this, the song was released on March 8. Don't know it it's reliable though. Pancake (talk) 14:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a Radio 'Impact Date' (per source) you are referring to. It is not a 'release' date. However (as you mention, if it is reliable) there is consensus that a song can become a 'single' based upon a Radio date.—Iknow23 (talk) 04:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So it can be used as a source for the single's radio date? Pancake (talk) 09:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No offense, but shouldn't you have waited for response to your question before actually using it as a source?—Iknow23 (talk) 04:23, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pancake, I only regularly check FMQB and Allaccess regularly. Anyway the Frequency source should cover any doubt. Candy o32 02:47, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to discussion...Re: Radio dates in infobox

Radio date is NOT a 'Release' (industry terminology). We are attempting to resolve the reporting of Radio date in infobox HERE. Also feel free to review the considerable material prior to the subsection given in the link. Please contribute and thank you.—Iknow23 (talk) 06:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]