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References

Van Alen Report, 2001

Zoo Magazine, Issue 12

Jenny Schnetzer. Greening the Emerald City. I.D.

Sheri Olson. Weiss/Manfredi Develops Plans for Seattle Sculpture Park. Architectural Record.

Clair Enlow. Zig Zag, Art on a Green Carpet: A Sculpture Park to Unfold on the Seattle Waterfront. Landscape Architecture.

Julia Mandell. Weiss/Manfredi Architects: Greentree Foundation Center for Peace and the Seattle Olympic Sculpture Park. Architecture

Amanda Reeser. Olympic Sculpture Park: Weiss/Manfredi Architects. Praxis, Issue 4.

Raymond W. Gastil. Beyond the Edge: New York’s New Waterfront Seattle’s Waterfront Urban Art and Environmental Science in the Olympic Sculpture Park. Princeton Architectural Press. 2002.

Mark Robbins. Arts Funding Fuels a Dynamic Society. Los Angeles Times.

Anne Raver. From Ruin and Artifice, Landscapes Reborn. New York Times.

Witold Rybczynski. The Aesthetics of Urban Renewal. Slate.

Dorothee Imbert. Look, Landscape! Architect’s Newspaper

Paula Deitz. Landforms and Architecture. Architectural Record.

Peter Reed (editor). Groundswell: Constructing the Contemporary Landscape. Museum of Modern Art. 2005.

Anne Guiney (editor). Survey Says. Architect’s Newspaper.

Here is a list of references from before opening day. DVD+ R/W 19:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PHOTO REQUEST

Photo of the "photography prohibited" statue ASAP!

You asked for it, you got it! (And please remember to sign your name.) Tintinologist94 14:53, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Who actually "operates" the park?

The lead says that SAM operates the park, and SAM themselves claim that here. The infobox says that Parks & Rec operates the park. P&R does have a page for the park here, and that page says that SAM "owns and maintains" the park. The thing that's weird about this is that P&R doesn't have pages for parks that it doesn't operate, like Jack Block Park. Yet it has one for this. Thoughts? Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 01:57, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is probably fuzzy because the sculpture park is adjacent to a city park, without any demarcation of boundaries: Myrtle Edwards Park. The city even used to list them together on their official parks page (archived). - Brianhe (talk) 23:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Park designer

An IP editor recently changed some stuff in the article that I'm uncomfortable with. The New York Times source (which was removed) stated it is "a lush panoramic space for public art designed by Weiss/Manfredi Architects". There should be strong reasons for contradicting this. — Brianhe (talk) 21:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information

«As a free-admission public outdoor sculpture park with both permanent and visiting installations, it is a unique institution in the United States.» This statement appears to incorrect. In fact, there is at least another such institution in the US, that is the Goldwell Open Air Museum in Nevada. Moreover, the observation at the very end of the cited article («There's nothing else like this in the country.»), when read in context, appears to be referring to the artistic experience and not to the uniqueness of the institution. — User:RiseOfTheAnts 09:37, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Former artworks?

Can we discuss this update? Perhaps the table should display current artworks, but there should also be a list of artworks formerly displayed within the park? @Brianhe: Do you have an opinion? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a moot question: I just realized that the diff you provided introduced copyvio from this source [1]. Unfortunately it can't be simply undone now due to intervening edits, but the copyvio material needs to be removed. - Brianhe (talk) 17:38, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if "Samlibrarian" is a staff member? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:45, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I went ahead and created separate sections for current and former artworks. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:49, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Table

Honestly? The current table is a mess. There are copyright violations (unless User:Brianhe got the last of 'em), dead links, unsourced claims, etc. I wonder if this should be scrapped for a simple list of artworks currently displayed in the park, at least until someone is able to expand further. (?) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and replaced the table with a simple list. I am creating stubs for these works. Details belong on their respective articles and not this article, which should be about the park in general. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:38, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's yet more problems with the article and copyvio -- most if not all of the images of artwork are out of compliance due to freedom of panorama issues: artist generally retains copyright in United States. I had this issue when compiling the List of public art in Kirkland, Washington and had to throw out a bunch of images that I did myself over the course of several days. Without the images, there's very little justification to maintain the artwork in table format. - Brianhe (talk) 23:16, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I wondered if the images were problematic, but I figured I'd let the Commons folks deal with that issue. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:17, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Stinger

Currently, the last paragraph of the "Criticism" section says:

The piece Stinger, by artist Tony Smith, caused some debate among artists and critics because it was created after his death.^[1] The work was conceived by the artist in 1967 in a drawing and first constructed as a plywood mock-up in 1968. The painted steel version at the sculpture park was fabricated, based on the artist’s design, in 1999. It was donated to the Seattle Art Museum by the artist's estate.^[2]^[3]

References

^ Sheila Farr, Seattle Times art critic (24 January 2007). "A critic's-eye view of the new Olympic Sculpture Park". Seattle Times. Retrieved 2007-01-30. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
^ Lindsay, Erika (2 May 2005). "SAM Acquires Monumental Work by Tony Smith for the Olympic Sculpture Park, Stinger, 1967-68". Seattle Art Museum press release.
^ Matthew Marks Gallery (2007). Not an Object, Not a Monument: The Complete Large-Scale Sculpture of Tony Smith. Gottingen: Steidl. p. 92. ISBN 9783865213136.

Should this be moved to the Stinger article? This doesn't seem to be criticism about the park as a whole. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Samlibrarian: Inviting you to this discussion as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that it definitely belongs in the Stinger article rather than here. It only applies to that single sculpture and has almost nothing to do with the park itself. Sounder Bruce 01:53, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Sheila Farr, Seattle Times art critic (24 January 2007). "A critic's-eye view of the new Olympic Sculpture Park". Seattle Times. Retrieved 2007-01-30. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

[2] Lindsay, Erika (2 May 2005). "SAM Acquires Monumental Work by Tony Smith for the Olympic Sculpture Park, Stinger, 1967-68". Seattle Art Museum press release.

[3] Matthew Marks Gallery (2007). Not an Object, Not a Monument: The Complete Large-Scale Sculpture of Tony Smith. Gottingen: Steidl. p. 92. ISBN 9783865213136.

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