Talk:Oliver Ellsworth

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Retirement or resignation?

On List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, it says resignation. On this page, it says something like retirement to me. What's true? -- Toytoy July 2, 2005 03:50 (UTC)

How do you expect him to retire if he didn't first resign? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePug (talk • contribs) 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The naming of the "United States"

Oliver Ellsworth made sure our government continued to be called the "United States" government by his motion, he did not create the term and he was not the first to use the term.Tomticker5 (talk) 21:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resignation due to pains

I added this due to the pains he suffered which ended his career: Even if Ellsworth was viewed as "a valuable acquisition ot the Court," and "a great loss to the Senate," he resigned after just 4 years due to his "constant, and at times excruciating pains," sufferings made worst by his Europe travels, as special envoy to France.^[1] --Florentino floro (talk) 06:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Laboratory of Justice, The Supreme Court's 200 Year Struggle to Integrate Science and the Law, by David L. Faigman, First edition, 2004, p. 34; Smith, Republic of Letters, 15, 501

Achievements as legislator

"The Judiciary Act and Bill of Rights thus counterbalanced each other, each guaranteeing respite from the excesses of the other. However, with the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment in 1865, seventy-five years later, the Bill of Rights could be brought to bear at all levels of government as interpreted by the judiciary with final appeal to the Supreme Court. Needless to say, this had not been the original intention of either Madison or Ellsworth."

The inclusion of the phrase "needless to say" is a red flag that this is an unsubstantiated bit of personal opinion. Needed is citation of a later reputable published source that relates Ellsworth's documented views on separation and balance of powers to the14th Amendment. Jperrylsu (talk) 20:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Laboratory of Justice, The Supreme Court's 200 Year Struggle to Integrate Science and the Law, by David L. Faigman, First edition, 2004, p. 34; Smith, Republic of Letters, 15, 501

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