Talk:Ojo Caliente, New Mexico

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Below is a full edit from the New York Times modified to Wikipedia simple English standards. A similar edit was submitted and has been reverted unnecessarily. The material adds to the History of Ojo Caliente. Rather than lazy reverting simple improvements would make this a valuable edition to the article. The editor who has done the reverts has already acknowledged the value of the content. The perspective here is the language also meets Wikipedia standards. Here is the edit...

Ojo Caliente is one of the oldest spas in North America. Ancestors of the Pueblo Native Americans bathed here where they believed that their legendary Tewa hero, P'oseyemu, entered the underworld through the pools. Early Spanish explorers thought they had found the fountain of youth at Ojo, and Coronado's men who came later to conquer the river pueblos used the springs to heal their battle wounds.

The Mauro family, bought the land and hotel in 1932,consisting of small cabins the 16-room hotel on the spa compound and 1,400 acres of undeveloped land were owned by the Mauros. The cabins, the hotel are now on the National Register of Historic Places, a bathhouse and a barn are all that remain of the old adobes after a fire destroyed much of the spa in 1992. Which has since been rebuilt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.74.155.54 (talk) 14:41, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

The content mentioned above consists essentially of material copied from a blog post, with a few changes that introduce punctuation errors, awkward style, missing spaces, etc. The edits, first made from a Wave Broadband IP, were sloppily done in the first place, then re-introduced from two AT&T Mobility IPs (both since blocked), then from two IPs in Washington. Mz7: FYI... Eric ^talk 15:51, 21 May 2018 (UTC) (editor who made the reverts)

Namaste. The edit suggested above contains valuable historical information and is from the prestigious New York Times ‘Travel’ section. It is an article from 1996 not a ‘blog’. It is a mistake to call this item a ‘blog’. Wikipedia is an international group of dedicated editors, some who do not have English as a first language. To refer to any such efforts of any editor as ‘sloppy ‘ would seem to be a mistaken approach. A simple solution would be to improve the edit of the RS NYT and thus improve the article, anything less seems like a lazy revert to hide or censor the acknowledgment of the valued content. Kind Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.74.155.54 (talk • contribs)

My mistake re blog, though nothing derogatory meant. I think the laziness is in the original addition of the material (at first with an either mistaken or made-up source). Maybe the person insisting on adding the material might want to improve it. Eric ^talk 22:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Namaste It took about 3 minuets to find the Taos News item originally cited from December 1994 page 10 and reclaimed in 2018. So it is rather silly to claim it was ‘made up’ or just plain lazy on the part of the reverting editor. It would have been far easier to just improve the existing edit.<ref>https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/12028539/ Kind Regards

Restricted-access third-party source, not the source originally cited, not the date given. More time wasted. Eric ^talk 12:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Namaste Eric you are again mistaken about the Taos News article it is open access with both the news page and the copy available to anyone, in fact here is the crucial copy...”Considered to be one of the oldest health resorts in North America, Ojo Caliente's waters have been sought and enjoyed by many for centuries. The ancient people regarded the waters as an opening to the underworld, the residing place of the Great Spirits. "Legends tell of trails leading to the springs like the 'spokes of a wheel,' " Mauro said. The Spanish conquistadors stopped here on their long journeys. During the first half of the 20th century, people flocked to the springs from all over the United States to seek relief for health problems. The resort's hotel building was built in 1917, the coed bath house was built in the 1860s and the springs themselves are on the state and national historical registers. Jerry Muuro's grandfather, Frank Mauro, purchased the springs in 1932, believing he had found the fabled fountain of youth. It has been a family-owned and operated business ever since”...It would seem Wikipedia cooperation and consensus standards would be best met by a simple modification by fellow editors rather than disruptive wholesale reverts of documentation that has clear historical value to the article. Kind Regards

Greetings Being the person who posted from Taos News and New York Times about Ojo Caliente and English is not first language speaking can a kind editor of Wikipedia please help. Best of What Is Good — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.175.249 (talk) 16:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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