Talk:Ohrdruf (disambiguation)

"The camp is often called just "Ohrdruf"" – is it?

Please care to give some examples where the "... camp is ... called just "Ohrdruf""? – thanks. Here are some examples where Ohrdruf is just called Ohrdruf, without concentration camp connotation:

--Francis Schonken (talk) 04:57, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

When I search Ohrdruf, the first result is the WP article "Ohrdruf concentration camp." Other top results include "Ohrdruf | The Holocaust Encyclopedia", "Ohrdruf - Photograph" (a photograph of the camp), "Liberation of Ohrdruf — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum", and "What We Fought Against: Ohrdruf - The National WWII Museum" (t · c) buidhe 05:02, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re. "When I search Ohrdruf, the first result is..." – I get a different first result

Re. "the WP article "Ohrdruf concentration camp."" – WP:CIRCULAR, and, for clarity, the WP title currently disambiguates by adding "... concentration camp". In other words, in that Wikipedia article title the "The camp is" *not* "called just "Ohrdruf""

Re. "Ohrdruf | The Holocaust Encyclopedia", again, context is given as "Holocaust Encyclopedia", outside such context there's no way Ohrdruf is mostly understood as the concentration camp.

Re. photo called "Ohrdruf - Photograph" – Here's a whole series of photos where "Ohrdruf" in the name of the photo does not associate with the concentration camp.

Re. "Liberation of Ohrdruf — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum" – again, the context is given as "... Holocaust Memorial Museum"

Re. "What We Fought Against: Ohrdruf - The National WWII Museum" – again, the context is give as "... National WWII Museum"

No, you'll have to do better than that: contextless (as in, e.g., "Bach in Ohrdruf"), the term Ohrdruf does *not* generally refer to the concentration camp. If it were, the Wikipedia article "Ohrdruf concentration camp" should be moved to "Ohrdruf".

Well, try this: type "Ohrdruf -concentration" in your search engine: when I do, not a single concentration camp related result turns up on the first results page – google still promising "3.500.000" results of the same. In other words, generally, the context "concentration (camp)" needs to be given before "Ohrdruf" is understood as such. --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:32, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Francis Schonken, Please stop reverting to your preferred version and discuss at WP:RFD if you disagree. The examples you gave above are unhelpful and meaningless; I get the exact opposite when searching "Ohrdruf -town". Furthermore, the article Ohrdruf concentration camp was actually created at "Ohrdruf" and later moved, presumably to comply with the naming convention. The Russian article is actually Ордруф (концентрационный лагерь) which is maybe something that should be considered for our articles. (t · c) buidhe 05:40, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We exist to serve our readers so the real question is "what do readers want when they search Ohrdruf?" Nothing you wrote above indicates that most want the town. Pageviews strongly indicate the opposite. (t · c) buidhe 05:45, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Ohrdruf, Thuringia#Requested move 12 July 2020 --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:50, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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