Talk:Oblong
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Uncited descriptions
[edit]- The archetypal oblong shape is a circle cut in half and extended via straight lines between the previously-connected endpoints of the semicircles; the result is not an ellipse, but a different form of "stretched circle".
- An Oblong is a rare fruit grown in Cuba- very few are exported. It has 5 to 13 seeds in the quarter supporting the backbone. Oblongs are grown on tall mango-like trees.
I couldn't find support for either of the statements listed above. If you find a citation they can move back to the article.--Dbolton (talk) 05:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- Merriam-Webster online(http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oblong) provides a definition, which I have included. The superscript [1] shows up, but no note at the bottom of the article. Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong! - Special-T (talk) 23:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Requested move 28 June 2018
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Not moved. There is a clear absence of consensus for the proposed move. bd2412 T 13:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Oblong → Oblong (disambiguation) – Rectangle is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so oblong should redirect there. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:27, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Strong support well spotted. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:01, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support, clear primary topic of the term by historical importance. bd2412 T 11:18, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- In retrospect, perhaps this title should be its own article on elongated geometric shapes. bd2412 T 13:21, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Oblong can also refer to rounded shapes; [1], [2], [3]. Plantdrew (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Comment. Pageviews indicate an unusually high traffic for a dab page, amounting to 2500 monthly views. It's hard to tell where the readers go from there, but glossary of leaf shapes is not that; I'd guess many are L2 speakers who are unsure what the word means.
Thus, inclined to support the move on the premise that "rectangle" is indeed the desired target.No such user (talk) 08:40, 4 July 2018 (UTC)- Changing my vote to Oppose per Dekimasu's comment below; "oblong" is pretty vague, and an oval or even stadium (geometry) are also close synonyms, so a dab page should be expanded instead. No such user (talk) 07:38, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:06, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support: I agree that rectangle is likely to be what most of those who land here are looking for. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Plantdrew. A redirect to Rectangle would be no more appropriate than a redirect to Oval. "oblong, noun: an object or flat figure in an elongated rectangle or oval shape." Dekimasuよ! 00:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Plantdrew and Dekimasu. "Oblong" is a property of more than just rectangles. --Ahecht (TALK
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Deleted entries
[edit]@Shhhnotsoloud: regarding your edit, the reason I deleted those entries is because they didn't seem to be supported by MOS:DAB, in that it seemed unlikely somebody would type oblong into a search box trying to find those articles. I don't feel strongly about that, so I'll be happy to put them back, but I think my reformatting makes more sense, so I'm going to revert to that. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:25, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Whilst there's no consensus above for the rectangle to be the primary topic, it is certainly a topic and must be included: I think it is highly likely that a user typing "Oblong" into the search box wants to know about rectangles! But your format isn't MOS:DAB-compliant: it contains two lead sentences. What was there before is compliant. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:48, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hmmm, interesting. The accepted style for section heads seems to have changed in 2016, and for entries where the keyword is not part of the title changed in 2012. I hadn't kept up with either of those. So, thanks for bringing up to speed with current usage. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: OK Roy - happy editing! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:21, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hmmm, interesting. The accepted style for section heads seems to have changed in 2016, and for entries where the keyword is not part of the title changed in 2012. I hadn't kept up with either of those. So, thanks for bringing up to speed with current usage. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Primary topic
[edit]@Shhhnotsoloud: I can't see why a move would be required, ergo there is no need for a WP:RM or reference to the move request above. All of the uses (apart, possibly, from Angus) are predicated upon this definition which, I would suggest, is pretty well the definition of the primary meaning. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 18:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Martin of Sheffield: Hello. This page is at the base name because there is no primary topic. If "Rectangle" were the primary topic for "Oblong" then Oblong would be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Rectangle, and the disambiguation page would be at Oblong (disambiguation). That was what was aiming to be achieved by the RM above, but there was no consensus for the move, because there is no consensus that "Rectangle" is the primary topic for "Oblong". You'll see above that I agree with you that "Rectangle" is the primary topic but other users say otherwise because of the wider definition of oblong. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:12, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- OK, WP:WL trumps WP:RF. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:56, 11 September 2020 (UTC)