Talk:Obelisk of Montecitorio

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A fact from Obelisk of Montecitorio appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 November 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the obelisk in Rome's Piazza Montecitorio (pictured) was erected in 10 BC as a giant sundial gnomon, but stopped keeping accurate time within 30 years?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/November.

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When? Did the obelisk sit in some warehouse between 10 BC and AD 17 before it was erected?

In the first paragraph, the article says, "Brought to Rome with the Flaminian obelisk in 10 BC by Augustus to be used as a gnomon....", and in the last paragraph, it says, "according to Pliny, the original horologium had stopped working 30 years after its construction (that is by 47 AD)." One of "10 BC", "30 years" and "47 AD" has to be wrong. 30 years before AD 47 should be AD 17. Right? Did the obelisk sit in some warehouse between 10 BC and AD 17 before it was erected? I'm confused. --PFHLai 02:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The timespan from 10 BC to 47 AD would be 57 years; almost twice 30. I've left this article unedited because I don't know which of either Pliny or the quoted dates are correct. --KateH 18:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt

Surely the first construction section should discuss its original placement in Egypt. And what do the hieroglyphs say? Rmhermen (talk) 00:23, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree and - as per WP:BOLD i changed the section title and added a missing info template.--91.64.59.134 (talk) 12:31, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I found a translation of the hieroglyphs and added them. For a scholarly source, see https://www.jstor.org/stable/29546118 --91.64.59.134 (talk) 12:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

i found a source which at least mentions the time before it was brought to Rome: http://omeka.wellesley.edu/piranesi-rome/exhibits/show/romanobelisks/montecitorio - if someone has the time to write that up, that'd be lovely.--91.64.59.134 (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

exorcism

Did Pope Sixtus V perform an exorcism on the obelisk?Smallman12q (talk) 19:48, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]