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GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Oakland Buddha/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 15:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Opening statement

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In reviews I conduct, I may make small copyedits. These will only be limited to spelling and punctuation (removal of double spaces and such). I will only make substantive edits that change the flow and structure of the prose if I previously suggested and it is necessary. For replying to Reviewer comment, please use  Done,  Fixed, plus Added,  Not done,  Doing..., or minus Removed, followed by any comment you'd like to make. I will be crossing out my comments as they are redressed, and only mine. A detailed, section-by-section review will follow. —♠Vami_IV†♠ 15:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As this the first of the reviewee's articles that I have reviewed, they should note that I am a grammar pendant and will nitpick in the interest of prose quality. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 15:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

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  • Lead: When was the statue installed?
plus Added Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Though Stevenson is not Buddhist, he stated Shouldn't be present-tense. I suggest Though not a Buddhist, Stevenson [...]
    •  Done, yes, that's a better way to word it.
  • In 2010, Vietnamese residents from a local church "local Vietnamese residents" would be better, I think. "local church" doesn't make me think of a Buddhist affair.
    •  Done, on a closer reading of the reference, it does not assert that those who created the shrine were from that church.
  • had been painted white [...] The residents cleaned, painted, and decorated the statue, Repainted?
    •  Done
  • Buddhist goddess of compassion Guan Yin "goddess" is not an accurate descriptor of a Bodhisattva. I am aware the lead of Guan Yin's article calls her a goddess, but it also says that title was given to her by the Jesuits. There is also a "the" missing before "Buddhist".
    •  Done, while I'm not particularly uncomfortable with "goddess" given that the source and article both use that term, we can paraphrase, so changed to "icon".

Broadness

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For a GAN, this article is rather short. That in itself is not a problem, however, there is important context missing, and a bold and implied claim. First the elephant in the room: Can you prove that the installation of the statue and its conversion into and use as a shrine is responsible for the drop in crime its area? Where is the statue located? Who's the guy who put it up? What happened in the 19 years between its installation in 1999 and its conversion to a shrine in 2010? The article needs expansion. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 15:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA progress

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Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Discussion

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Vami IV, thank you for your advice and review. I have added the time frame to the article's lead. So far as the identity of the man who installed it, the article contains the following in the lead already: The statue was placed by neighborhood resident Dan Stevenson who was upset about the frequent use of the median for illegal dumping. What would you suggest adding? So far as proof of the link between the statue and reduced crime, I do not believe that could be proven dispositively, but the statement about crime dropping after its installation is sourced to the Oakland police. I am not certain I could do any better than that, but I will see if there were any actual studies done. I will get more specific location information as well. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:37, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.