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blyskawica

The account of Blyskawica's defence of Cowes, Isle of Wight, on the night of 4/5 May 1942 is incorrect.

The ship DID NOT slip her moorings and go out into the harbour (or beyond) - but remained alongside the quay of J Samuel White's West Cowes shipyard. Indeed the ship remained connected to the on-shore electric power, which could have been used if the vessel had lost its own power (which it did not).

There is an account of a shipyard worker who refused to go to an air raid shelter, so that he could maintain J Samuel White's generator that could have supplied power to the ship.

George Chastney Vice Chairman of Cowes Heritage george.chastney@lycosmax.co.uk

I have spoken to the Artillery Officer on the Blyskawica, Tadeusz Lesisz, who says that the ship remained in harbour throughout the bombing raids. He says that all main ammunition was taken off the ship (in case of aerial bombardment), but that the 40mm Bofors and machine gun rounds were left on board.

Michael Dembinski Son-in-law of Tadeusz Lesisz michaeldembinski@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.5.232.68 (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B-class review

This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. It also does not seem very comprehensive (needs a section on ship physical characteristics, equipment, etc.). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:32, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Last paragraph (Prince Charles' visit)

The last paragraph is merely a copy of the article on the HMCS Haida, and it may be misleading. Did Prince Charles visit the Blyskawica, or only the Haida? I was on the Haida on Monday and there is a picture on board of the Princess of Wales and Prince Charles on the Haida, so I know they at least visited that ship. Can anyone confirm they also visited the Blyskawica? If not, that section needs to be edited.--Trainrekmatt (talk) 00:52, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate picture credit

There is a picture credit which mentions a crewmember cleaning a 76mm AA gun on the ORP Błyskawica in 1940. The problem lay in the notion of the ship NOT having 76mm AA weapons. This picture appears to be from another ship. Even after the refit in 1941, the ORP Błyskawica was not fitted with 76 mm AA weapons. A quick look at the armament section in the same wiki-article would support the correct AA weapons configuration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.242.105.241 (talk) 04:32, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A 3-inch (i.e 76mm) anti-aircraft gun was added after arrival in the UK, replacing one of triple torpedo-tube mounts - as stated and referenced in the article. (Whether this happened immediately after arrival or after the Norwegian campaign, when most British destroyers had torpedo tubes removed to accommodate additional 3-inch or 4-inch HA guns is open to question) The gun appears to have been removed after the ship was rearmed in 1941, allowing the torpedo tubes to be re-instated.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

English translation of Błyskawica

Błyskawica properly translates in English as "lightning flash". ORP Piorun translates as "lightning", and ORP Grom translates as "thunder bolt".ORPBłyskawica (talk) 23:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Photograph in the North Atlantic

A little past the halfway mark is a photograph that purports to be the Błyskawica operating in the North Atlantic. I strongly suspect this is not such a photo. I suggest this is either another ship, a highly retouched image, or a painting.

The telltail sign is that the resolution of the ship is too low in places and too high in others. For instance, the portholes along the side of the ship are easily seen, while the "men" at the front are completely blurred out. Likewise, the guns are so obscured as to look like single emplacements while having convenient high-resolution outlines on the turrets. The entire ship seems to have been traced for clarity.

Further, the pattern of the portholes does not follow the ones in the other images; note especially the even distribution compared to the "gappy" one seen on the ship, especially at the aft end. And while the top row is easily visible, the second row below it is completely invisible.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:23, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I found a copy of the book in question, and the iamge is as it appears on the article. In the book, however, the image is actually a color painting, accounting for the unrealistic appearance. Kges1901 (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]