Talk:Nymphomaniac (film)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Title

I disagree with this page being moved to the stylized version Nymph()maniac. This is not how people will search for the article. --Another Believer _(Talk) 00:10, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Search issues can be solved by the for template, disambigs, and redirects, but I agree that it's not preferable. What is the precedent? Se7en was the first title to come to mind with a stylized spelling, and it redirects. Also, the Magnolia website uses the traditional type in big letters at the top of its page. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  00:52, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I moved the page back to the non-stylized version. --Another Believer _(Talk) 18:12, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: MOS:FOLLOW is the guideline to follow here. Maybe it is something that should be applied to (500) Days of Summer too? Erik (talk | contribs) 21:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Is this film for real?

I mean, the IMDB article is one thing, but this is another. It seems too out there to be legitimate. HectorAE (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Simply conducting a Google search will return plenty of sources with additional information. --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:20, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

"Strange erotic journey form Milan to Minsk" is a quote from Seinfeld. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.93.140 (talk) 01:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Not banned in Romania!

Per this. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 15:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

LaBeouf - I am not famous any more!

Per this. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 20:08, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Plot

It surprises me that nobody else likes to contribute to the plot section. Has nobody seen the film, or is everybody too lazy/uninterested? - Patrick (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

There is a plot section. Maybe this is enough. Span (talk) 22:33, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Compared with other film articles it is currently very meagre. The list of chapters is rather silly, like paragraphs of an article with only titles and no content. - Patrick (talk) 22:40, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Overall review and significant copyedit

I discovered this article today in a form that required a review and corresponding copyedit, and ended up spending a fair amount of time on it. Citations needed to to be added and the content needed to be adjusted to align with the content of the citations. I think it needs further work, so it would be good to receive comments or contributions from other copyeditors.--Soulparadox (talk) 12:19, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Poster

It would be reasonable to illustrate this article with the official Director's Cut poster, which signifies the original, complete, uncensored 5½ hour version of the film. Can anyone help, please? It's available here: http://www.bbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/nymphomaniac-poster.jpg --Minutae (talk) 20:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Should this be two entries rather than one?

IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, Box Office Mojo, etc. all present this as two films rather than one. Should Wikipedia follow suit? 85.250.155.74 (talk) 19:35, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

• Comment: I would be fine with a split because per WP:PLOT, "Wikipedia treats fiction in an encyclopedic manner, discussing the reception and significance of notable works in addition to a concise summary." This means the reception is key to encyclopedic treatment of a work of fiction. If it is commonplace for two parts of a work to be critiqued separately, as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic show, then we should separate the work into two articles so each one can house the distinct reception for each work. What may be redundant is production information, so maybe there could be a Production of Nymphomaniac sub-article which both film articles could link to and summarize only the details pertinent to the respective volume. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 20:16, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Sounds like an excellent idea. Thank you for your comment! 85.250.155.74 (talk) 20:20, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

• I think a single article would be preferable. I assume most people thinking of "Nymphomaniac" as a single body of work. A well-written article could easily include plot overviews of both parts, production and reception sections, etc. I see no reason for a split. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:15, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, if there is no consensus, we can close this for the time being. No harm done. 85.250.155.74 (talk) 20:00, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

CGI sex scenes?

To produce scenes of unsimulated sex, von Trier used digital compositing to superimpose the genitals of pornographic film actors onto the bodies of the film's actors. Producer Louise Vesth explained during the Cannes Film Festival:

"We shot the actors pretending to have sex and then had the body doubles, who really did have sex, and in post we will digital impose the two. So above the waist it will be the star and the below the waist it will be the doubles"

A number of different users on IMDB are saying this isn't the case and that in another Von Trier said he'd only said it so the American market wouldn't hassle him, or something to that effect. Anyone know more about it? --— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.164.195 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 30 March 2014‎

Please take note that Wikipedia talk pages are not general discussion forums about the respective article's subject. The sources for the material in question are included as references in the article. If you can come up with better sources, or if you think the current prose doesn't accurately reflect the cited sources, feel free to edit the article or to discuss changes to the article here on the talk page. Thank you. --84.44.157.243 (talk) 05:24, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Point relevant to the issue: The end credits list all the sex doubles by name. --87.180.197.207 (talk) 01:45, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Spoiler: rape allegation Original Research?

Re this edit Having watched the films, at the end, I watched only a sexual advance on a self confessed "Nymphomaniac". This is not someone with a "sexual addiction problem" - she herself, during the film, dispels this notion. It might arguably have been inappropriate in the circumstances but there was no attempt at penetration and certainly no force by the guy when rebuffed; I saw no attempt to rape her. I have rewatched the ending...the guy does not climb into bed with her either. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 17:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

There doesn't need to be force or attempt at penetration for it to be an attempted rape. Rape is about consent (specifically, the lack thereof). He tried to force himself on her without her consent. (She was asleep and couldn't consent.) If she had consented, it wouldn't have been an attempted rape, and she wouldn't have shot him. And OR is a tricky one on this sort of thing, but at the very least, this review characterizes it as an attempted rape. -- Irn (talk) 12:53, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

There does have to be an attempt at penetration for it to be an attempted rape; He doesn't attempt to climb into the bed with her either and uses no force. The attempted rape issue is moot, however, thanks to your potential reference. Still open is the inaccuracy regarding him climbing into bed. Both are factual inaccuracies as neither happened ...disappointing. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 13:26, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

What!?

What does "Joe lubricates in front of the body" mean? Like, she becomes aroused, turned on? That's a more usual way of putting it than "lubricates", "lubricates" is a transitive verb! 188.29.164.127 (talk) 02:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

While that is what she says in the film (I believe the line is "I lubricated."), it does sound strange. So I've changed it. Cheers! -- Irn (talk) 15:13, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Setting

Where is it set? Jim Michael (talk) 09:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

While doing a few minor edits a while back I investigated this. I believe the film is conscientiously ambiguous as to its setting, though, obviously (to me) much of it was filmed in England/London. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 13:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

The categories say that it was filmed in Belgium, Denmark and Germany. The characters have many different accents, so it appears to be a city that has a high level of immigration. Could you see any landmarks in the film that would identify which city it's in? Jim Michael (talk) 23:24, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken the Train was British and the cars were right hand drive. Bosley John Bosley (talk) 07:28, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

" K (Jamie Bell), a sadist who violently assaults women seeking his company."

This is incorrect. The women aren't 'seeking his company' - they are masochists, seeking exactly what he does to them.

MarkinBoston (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2019 (UTC)