Talk:Nur jedem das Seine, BWV 163

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Review: December 18, 2015. (Reviewed version).

A fact from Nur jedem das Seine, BWV 163 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 June 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that passages of Bach's Nur jedem das Seine have been compared to the descent into earth in Das Rheingold and the love duet of L'incoronazione di Poppea?

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Infobox?

{{Infobox Bach composition
| title                 = {{lang|de|Nur jedem das Seine}}
| bwv                   = 163
| type                  = [[Church cantata (Bach)|Church cantata]]
| image                 = Schlosskirche Weimar 1660.jpg
| caption               = The [[Schlosskirche, Weimar|''Schlosskirche'' in Weimar]]
| occasion              = 23rd Sunday after [[Trinity Sunday|Trinity]]
| performed             = {{Timeline-event|date={{Start date|1715|11|24|df=y}}|location=[[Weimar]]}}
| movements             = 6
| text_poet             = [[Salomon Franck]]
| chorale               = by [[Johann Heermann]]
| scoring                 = {{hlist|[[SATB|{{abbr|SATB|soprano, alto, tenor and bass}}]]|[[Baroque instruments|strings]]|[[basso continuo|continuo]]}}
}}

Suggest something like this, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Amended slightly. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for trying, but the two cellos are unique to this cantata, no other that I know, - why should that be hidden under an unspecific "strings"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BWV31 also uses two cellos, but here they are used for the obbligato only - better explained in the text (with that lovely coin-polishing image), following the model of BWV56. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In that work, the two play with the violins and viola. Here, they stand out as obbligato, - I don't know what you mean by "obbligato only". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes, that's the point - BWV 56 has obbligato cello not in the infobox. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:57, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, thank you for pointing it out, fixed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nur jedem das Seine, BWV 163/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 22:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't reviewed a Bach article in a while! I'll finish this one soon. JAGUAR 22:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Initial comments

"the work is scored for a small Baroque chamber ensemble, here of two violins, viola, two cellos and continuo" - 'here of' doesn't make sense in the lead. Are violins and cellos used in this cantata? Something like which use two violins, viola, two cellos and continuo might sound better? Feel free to ignore as I'm unsure on making a good suggestion here

fixed --GA

"The music of that chorale is lost; only the continuo part survived" - has survived

yes --GA

"It was the first cantata performed after a period of mourning for Duke Johann Ernst" - the lead says he's a Prince! Also, he's not linked here

fixed, sorry I thought he was one of the two co-reigningdukes, but now see that he is a third person --GA

The second paragraph in the Music section is quite short and might be better off being merged with the first paragraph

please alloweach movement it's own para, for structure --GA

"Bach was interested in coins and precious metals" - I don't see how this is relevant to Music section? Is this referenced in the actual cantata?

It relates to how he composed the music about the "polishing", and the ref is right behind it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

No dead links

On hold

Nice article! I'll leave this on hold until all of the above are clarified. JAGUAR 16:28, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for addressing them! With those all out of the way, I'll be happy to promote this as it now meets the criteria.

JAGUAR 10:51, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]