Talk:Nubra

Biagdandu

I deleted the following paragraph because it is written in a non-objective style, and in 17 years of living in Ladakh I have never heard of a place of this name or description. The border mentioned cuts through the Balti area around the village of Turtuk, which does not fit any of the description given here.

The beautiful village of Baigdandu is located in the valley. Here one can suddenly find beautiful people boys and girls with startling blue eyes, auburn hair and ruddy cheeks as against the typical mongoloid features of the Ladakhis. Local lore has it that they were a Greek tribe who came in search of Jesus Christ's tomb and settled here. In 1948, the cease-fire line cut across the tribe, isolating Baigdandu village, a major part of the tribe was stranded on the other side. In 1971, the Ladakh Scouts liberated more areas and brought more of these people together, pushing back the Pakistanis and setting up the record of having captured the highest post in the world. Baigdandu is famous for the goats that give you the famous Pashmina shawls.

References

Generally I found this page very poor several months ago but left it alone in the hope that someone else would correct it. Since no-one has, I am correcting some of the English and the facts that I know, but am leaving alone other facts that really ought to be verified. BeckyLadakh (talk)

I Think the Village of Baigdandu exists - it is now called Bogdang!Pixel4You (talk) 22:18, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Nubra, it should be

Hi. do you know how to change the title of this page to just 'Nubra'. it does not show up as a link on other pages of wikipedia unless we write the whole thing nubra valley which does not fit. for e.g. i was writing zanskar, ladakh & nubra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawa1989 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

This page should be called just "Nubra" as the LEAD sentence states. It is a traditional name of the region for centuries (or even from the beginning). See quotes below. It is also not correct to call it "Nubra Valley" becaust it also includes the Shyok River valley.

The current disambiguation page titled Nubra should be moved to Nubra (disambiguation).

• Cunningham, Ladak (1854, p. 18): The natural divisions of the country [Ladakh] are: 1st, Nubra on the Shayok; 2nd, Ladak Proper, on the Indus; 3rd, Zanskar, on the Zanskar river; 4th, Rukchu [Rupshu], around the lakes of Tshomo Riri [Tso Moriri] and Tsho-Kar; 5th, Purik, Suru, and Dras, on the different branches of the Dras river; 6th, Spiti, on the Spiti river: and 7th, Lahul, on the Chandra and Bhaga, or head-waters of the Chenab. These also are the actual divisions of the country, for the natural boundaries of a mountainous district generally remain unaltered, in spite of the changes wrought by war and religion.
• Francke, A History of Western Tibet (1907, p. 85): He [Chewang Namgyal] also said he would make war against the Turks, north of Ladakh; but the people of the frontier province Nubra, who were afraid of harm being done to the trade to Yarkand, petitioned him to abstain from that war, and he desisted.
• Thomson, Western Himalaya and Tibet (1852): I was now in the district of Chorbat, the ridge which I had just crossed being the boundary of Nubra on the west. (reference to the Shyok Valley.)
• Longstaff, Glacier Exploration in the Eastern Karakoram (1910, p. 638): At Biagdangdo we left the river-bank to visit Waris, reaching the first Buddhists at the farm and chorten of Zdongpolas, 12,494 feet, for we now enter Lower Nubra [reference to the Shyok Valley].
• Shakspo, The Foremost Teachers (1999, p. 286): The King [Sengge Namgyal] donated large stretches of fertile land to the Lama in different parts of Ladakh, including Nubra, Changthang, Purig, and Zanskar.
• Shakabpa, One Hundred Thousand Moons (2009, p. 584): The Tibetan soldiers pursued the remaining troops as far as a place called Dumra [Nubra],[10] just one day’s journey from Leh, where the Tibetan army pitched their camp.
• Vohra, Mythic Lore from Nubra Valley (1990, p. 225): The area now termed Nubra was in earlier times divided between a number of local chiefs.

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Sources

• Cunningham, Alexander (1854), Ladak: Physical, Statistical, Historical, London: Wm. H. Allen and Co – via archive.org
• Francke, Rev. A. H. (1907), A History of Western Tibet, S. W. Partridge & Co – via archive.org
• Longstaff, T. G. (June 1910), "Glacier Exploration in the Eastern Karakoram", The Geographical Journal, 35 (6), The Royal Geographical Society: 622–653, JSTOR 1777235
• Shakabpa, Tsepon Wangchuk Deden (2009), One Hundred Thousand Moons: An Advanced Political History of Tibet, BRILL, ISBN 90-04-17732-9
• Shakspo, Nawang Tsering (1999), "The Foremost Teachers of the Kings of Ladakh", in Martijn van Beek; Kristoffer Brix Bertelsen; Poul Pedersen (eds.), Recent Research on Ladakh 8, Aarhus University Press, pp. 284–, ISBN 978-87-7288-791-3
• Thomson, Thomas (1852), Western Himalaya and Tibet: A Narrative of a Journey Through the Mountains of Northern India, During the Years 1847-8, Reeve and Company – via archive.org
• Vohra, Rohit (1990), "Mythic Lore and Historical Documents from Nubra Valley in Ladakh", Acta Orientalia Academiae Scientiarum Hungaricae, 44 (1/2), Akadémiai Kiadó: 225–239, JSTOR 23658122