Talk:Not Today (BTS song)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: The Most Comfortable Chair (talk · contribs) 13:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello. I will have the review in a day or two. Thank you. — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

General

• Is "Big Hit Entertainment" or "Big Hit" the common term? I reckon it's the latter, and if so remove "Entertainment" throughout the article. — The Most Comfortable Chair 07:16, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

• kept it as Big Hit Entertainment on first mention in both lead and body.

Lead

• "It was released on February 20, 2017, as the" → "It was released on February 20, 2017 as the".
• "single" from "album's second single" should be unlinked per MOS:OL.

•  Not done See Mic Drop (song), Black Swan (song), Physical (Dua Lipa song), all of which are GAs.

• "issued on May 10, 2017, through" → "issued on May 10, 2017 through".
• "that included tracks "Blood Sweat & Tears" and "Spring Day", both also in Japanese" → "that included Japanese versions of "Blood Sweat & Tears" and "Spring Day"."

•  Not done it was rephrased in this manner to avoid repetition of "Japanese versions".

• Years in brackets for "Blood Sweat & Tears" and "Spring Day".
• "Music critics" should be unlinked per MOS:OL, although I have noticed a number of BTS articles linking it. Is there a consensus on this? If not, it should not be linked on any of them. I checked out a few FAs and GAs of other artists and they do not link it either.

•  Not done This is unnecessary. I have always linked it in GAs that I've written..

• "Music video" should be unlinked per above.

•  Not done See Mic Drop (song), Black Swan (song), Physical (Dua Lipa song), all of which are GAs.

• "The music video for the song was directed by Sung-wook Kim of GDW and was released on February 20, 2017." → "The music video for the song directed by Sung-wook Kim of GDW was released on February 20, 2017."
• What is "GDW"? If there is full-form, that should be used unless "GDW" is the known term (like BTS).

• Not known

• A more neutral term instead of "powerful"?

• placed this word inside quotations as I'm directly quoting it from the press review.

• "choreography-version" → "choreography version".
• "A choreography-version of the video features close-up and wide-angled shots of the band performing choreography to the song. — The beginning and end of this sentence indicate the same thing. Perhaps describe the video in brief instead of "performing choreography to the song."?

• changed to "dance version" in the former sentence as the video features just choreography.

• "Language" parameter for the infobox.

Background and release

• "announced in January 2017, that a sequel" → "announced in January 2017 that a sequel".
• Don't write "2017" again and again after its mentioned once.
• Can link RM.
• ""Spring Day", released on February 13, 2020 by Big Hit Entertainment." — Don't have to mention Big Hit Entertainment for this.
• Timeline is a little mixed up. Rewrite it in a manner that February 13 comes after February 12.

• Carlobunnie, can you please help in rewriting this part? I can't think of better way to do this and I think you would be able to rephrase this well. Many thanks in advance. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:36, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

• I suppose "Spring Day" did not come out in 2020.
• "Big Hit Studios, Seoul, South Korea." — Remove "South Korea".
• "at Schmuzik Studios" — perhaps you could mention the city in which it is located?
• "in various countries by Big Hit Entertainment on February 20, 2017, as the second single from You Never Walk Alone." → "in various countries by Big Hit Entertainment on February 20, 2017 as the second single from You Never Walk Alone." Also, unlink Big Hit Entertainment here.
• " A Japanese version of the song was recorded and issued digitally for purchase on May 10, 2017 by Universal Music Japan as a B-side track of the band's seventh Japanese-language single album, together with the Japanese versions of their Korean singles "Blood Sweat & Tears" and "Spring Day"." — It is too long, so split this sentence into two.
• "as A-side and "Not Today" as a B-side track" — unlink B-side here.
• "containing the music videos for the Korean and Japanese versions of "Blood, Sweat & Tears"." → "containing music videos for the Korean and Japanese versions of "Blood, Sweat & Tears"."
• Years in brackets for "Blood Sweat & Tears" and "Spring Day".
• Unlink behind the scenes.
• "while C contains" → "while edition C contains".

Music and lyrics

• Unlink musical notion, pre-chorus and chorus.

•  Not done No reason why these can't be linked.

• The audio file should ideally be on the right, unless there is an image file there. It disrupts reading flow when it is on the left side.
• "RM stated" → "RM said".
• "references to the idea of breaking all invisible barriers that stop people from succeeding." → "references the idea of breaking all invisible barriers that prevent people from succeeding."
• "Tamar Herman of Billboard believed that the lyrics addressed social and political issues." — This line should come before the part where you describe themes of anti-establishment, and rallying against injustice, corruption and irrationality.

• I feel it flows better the way it is now.

Reception

• Unlink music critics.

• unnecessary

• "in its first week of release." → "in its first week."
• "it charted at number 23 on" → "it peaked at number 23 on"

Music video

• Unlink music video.

• unnecessary

• ""Not Today", directed by Sung-wook Kim of GDW, was uploaded on Big" → ""Not Today", directed by Sung-wook Kim of GDW was uploaded on Big".
• Unlink film series.
• "they start performing powerful choreography," — a neutral term instead of "powerful"? "Rapid" or something else? Either that or use "..." like it is used in "rapid-fire" later on.
• that's how its mentioned, thus using quotes.
• "dance version" → "choreography version".
• A more neutral term than "powerful" here as well.

• same as above

Live performances

• "on February 23, 2017." → "on February 23."
• "on December 2, 2017." → "on December 2."
• "performed the song at the SBS Gayo Daejeon music festival on December 25, 2017." → "performed the song at the 2017 SBS Gayo Daejeon music festival on December 25."
• "On December 29, 2017" → "On December 29".
• Years in brackets for "DNA" and "Mic Drop".

• Both were released in 2017.

Credits and personnel

• Unlink liner notes and You Never Walk Alone.
• Mention year in brackets after "You Never Walk Alone".

• Are you sure that it is to be mentioned here?

References

• Reference 1 — remove "Kpop News – " from the title.
• Reference 9 — link The Korea Herald.
• Reference 6 and 8 — Apple Music instead of iTunes.
• Reference 41 — link Naver.
• Reference 48 — unlink MWave.
• Reference 61 — needs more parameters like language, publisher, title (in it's language) and its translation. Date format needs to be changed for consistency.
• Reference 63 — needs a few more parameters and a change of date format.
• All YouTube references should be Big Hit via YouTube.

That should do it for now. It's a nice read and quite impressive that most of it was written in a day. Thank you for your work. — The Most Comfortable Chair 06:51, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

• The Most Comfortable Chair, thank you for the review, but I have left quite a few comments above and have otherwise addressed the rest, except one where I've sought the help of another editor, Carlobunnie. Do let me know if you have any queries. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:17, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response Ashleyyoursmile. My suggestion for unlinking those terms is based on Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked, which states that everyday words and common occupations should not be linked. Single, music video and music notion are everyday terms, and music critics fall under common occupations. Check out these Featured articles: Love the Way You Lie, Hey Jude, Like a Rolling Stone, and One Tree Hill (song). None of them link those terms because it would be considered overlinking. — The Most Comfortable Chair 15:36, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

• The Most Comfortable Chair, since you insist, I've unlinked the terms throughout the article. --Ashleyyoursmile! 15:43, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Final

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I won't hold it over for one minor rephrasing. It is well-written and meets the criteria. Thank you for all your efforts. — The Most Comfortable Chair 10:21, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

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