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Reviewer: Ritchie333 (talk · contribs) 10:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]


I'll review this. The article looks pretty close to the GA criteria already and I see the "usual suspects" of Norman, Everett, MacDonald and Lewisohn in the sources, so this should be a pretty straightforward affair. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

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  • Should we mention the song is primarily Lennon's work (or at least that is what the majority of the sources seem to lean towards), or is that too controversial?
  • not the first song to feature an Eastern-inspired sound in a rock composition, or even the first Beatles track ... the first Beatles track to do what? I can't think of another Beatles raga rock track before Rubber Soul, and I don't think the string quartet in "Yesterday" counts.

Composition

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  • it was Lennon who began writing the song in February 1965, while on vacation at St. Moritz in the Swiss Alps with his wife, Cynthia Lennon - this needs rewording, as at the moment it implies John began writing the song with Cynthia, which obviously wasn't the case.
  • while filming the second Beatles movie, Help!, at Twickenham Film Studios, George Harrison first encountered the sitar, a prominent feature in the song - I don't recall any sitar on the song "Help!", this needs clarifying
  • On 25 August 1965, during the Beatles' American tour, Harrison's friend David Crosby of the Byrds discussed in detail his thoughts about Indian classical music - (personal opinion) David Crosby has a tendency to let his ego run away and take credit for anything he possibly can, are we sure Roger McGuinn didn't have a hand in this?
  • Can we mention the time signature here? (6/8 I think) Most Beatles songs before this (and, indeed, most rock 'n' roll) were straight 4/4 after all.

Recording

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  • Though the group completely reshaped "Norwegian Wood", it was far from the album version. I don't understand what this means
  • Afterwards, the Beatles skipped the rhythm section, and decided to jump to the master take. What does this mean?

Summary

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That's pretty much it as far as I can see, I'll put the review on hold pending resolution of the above issues. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - Ritchie333 Since there are various accounts by John and Paul, I think it is best to just leave it at Lennon-McCartney, and explain the context in the body as is. I clarified the points made and included the time signature. The first point for "Recording" simply means a lot of changes were made to the song, but it did not yet resemble the final version.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The citation to Howlett's book you added needs a page number. I've made some other fixes and once that issue is resolved, we should be there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ritchie333, done. That was a quick one!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, it's a pass. Well done. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]