Talk:Northwestern Lumberman

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Did you know... that the Northwestern Lumberman, known originally as the Lumbermen's Gazette, was the first trade magazine for the U.S. lumber industry?

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Doug Coldwell — Another nice article! I'll take on the review. Before I do, however, I would recommend a closing statement. Presently the article ends with a statement about the merger, but doesn't say what ultimately happened to the journal. Is it still published? Go out of business or bought off? If there is such information I would close the article with it. If there's no source for this, the article still looks good to go in terms of DYK criteria. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Gwillhickers - The journal now exists as Home Center magazine. It is owned by a Dutch company. It so happens my wife of 48 years is from the Netherlands and could tell me Home Woonspecial meant "Home living special" and that the current cover says "October, Home Month".--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:40, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How can this be? Lumber one day, interior furnishings the next? It's as if the TLS suddenly became rebranded as TV Quick or Hello!. Ericoides (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the Northwestern Lumberman journal was the first lumber trade paper in America? "Lumbermen's Gazette established by William B Judson In Bay City in 1872 the first lumber trade paper in America

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Society of Gentleman Practisers in the Courts of Law and Equity

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 20:41, 12 October 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Comment - For full quote of source for hook see Bibliography "American Lumberman (1923)"

@Doug Coldwell: No major issues with plagiarism, QPQ done, article new and long enough. One question about the hook: wouldn't the Lumbermen's Gazette be the correct hook title, as it was the first journal's title, not the Northwestern Lumberman? Juxlos (talk) 15:25, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. I would say since the article is about the Northwestern Lumberman journal as the main theme, not the Lumbermen's Gazette, that the hook is correct. The name was Lumbermen's Gazette for something under two years. While it was a monthly journal devoted to the lumber industry for some 25 years it was mostly known as the Northwestern Lumberman. Under that name it had several reference works associated with it. I discovered in my research that most references talk mostly of it as the Northwestern Lumberman. The article's title and magazine's cover picture is the Northwestern Lumberman. The reference that covers the hook says ...it was removed to Chicago where it became the Northwestern Lumberman.. When it changed names to the American Lumberman it was then known as the Northwestern Lumberman and merged with another lumber trade journal called the The Timberman that was writing about very similar things. They just decided to call it then the American Lumberman journal. Under that title it operated out of the same building as the Northwestern Lumberman. Check out the Hodgson (1899) reference on page 22 which is linked in the Bibliography. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that the Northwestern Lumberman journal, known originally as the Lumbermen's Gazette, was the first lumber trade paper in America? --Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:57, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 is also good as it gives us a bit more context. It's a new article, and naturally there is always room for more information, but that isn't a DYK issue. The article meets all DYK criteria, gives us a solid basic picture about the subject, and IMO is good to go. User Juxlos initiated the review, so I'll give him/her the time to make the final call. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:23, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 looks good to me. Pinging @Juxlos: in case he has not put the nomination on his watchlist. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:03, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, ALT1 is satisfactory. Juxlos (talk) 11:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]