Talk:North Yorkshire (district)

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Population and area data

Hi All

I don't know how to edit the sidebar so I haven't done so. I wonder if someone can include population, area, and population density. I haven't found data on ethnicity etc. Details and backing below:

The population of the new administrative division of North Yorkshire (in other words, not including the local authorities out of its control such as Middlesbrough, York etc) is 598,376. This is as of 2011 and is derived by adding up the populations of the now defunct districts such as Hambleton, Ryedale etc.

Can this be added into the sidebar?

Also, the area of the new North Yorkshire administrative division is 8037 square kilometers. This is smaller in area than the ceremonial/historical county of North Yorkshire which obviously includes additional land area not under its control, such as Middlesbrough Borough, York Borough, etc. Evidence of the area of the new administrative district is here: [1]https://www.savills.co.uk/blog/article/347124/residential-property/why-north-yorkshire-must-refocus-on-outcomes-rather-than-process.aspx

Bear in mind that we now have population data (albeit it as of 2011, with the evidence being found within this article by way of adding the district councils that are now defunct) and the area (Savills say it's 803,700ha on their website, which I make to be 8037sq km) we can now assume that the North Yorkshire district created in April 2023 has a population density of 74.4 people per square kilometer (193 people per square mile) which ranks it as one of the lowest population densities of any administrative division in England.

Separately, this info might want to be included in the "list of administrative divisions by population" page. 208.127.46.246 (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image

@Chocolateediter do you mind me going back to one image for the lead? I am wary of using collages everywhere, particularly when the main page for a subject already contains a collage. A.D.Hope (talk) 14:13, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll re-house them. Chocolateediter (talk) 14:18, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One of your many talents! A.D.Hope (talk) 14:42, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"County"

@Mhockey: I don't think mentioning in the lead (or at all) that it is technically a county is helpful, technically this also applies to the likes of Redcar and Cleveland and York but we just use unitary authority area. I think the term "unitary authority area" is more understandable and is consistent with other such districts. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But it's more than just "technically" a county. Unlike Redcar and Cleveland and the City of York, it is commonly referred to as a county and never, as far as I know, as a district, so calling it a district fails WP:COMMONNAME. It is commonly called a county not just because it legally remains a county, but because of history (since 1974) and because of its size. As for consistency, we did have consistency in the treatment of non-metropolitan counties - they were all covered in the articles covering the eponymous ceremonial counties, but now we have inconsistent treatment of UA areas which have been counties since long before they became UA areas, and share the names (and most of the area) of their ceremonial counties e.g. Somerset, Buckinghamshire and others.--Mhockey (talk) 21:23, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't make sense to refer to North Yorkshire as a "district" in the title and body of this article. North Yorkshire is a county. The districts were the former local government areas within the county which were abolished in 2023. On the Council's website, see for example https://www.northyorks.gov.uk/news/2024/libraries-launch-online-support-sessions-bus-pass-applications: nine libraries across the county will be offering sessions on a weekly or fortnightly basis (my emphasis). As a unitary authority, its functions include those which a district authority would have dealt with, but that doesn't make it a district. I think the article title should be changed to North Yorkshire (county). BobKilcoyne (talk) 03:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The county is described at North Yorkshire and includes the area of districts which did not merge, i.e. York and Teesside. Rcsprinter123 (jaw) 11:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]